Many voters seem fooled that Trump 47 would be a bland replay of Trump 45, not the authoritarian nightmare he actually plans.

This BTW is how you involve in the story the reality of what the voters think, which is an important portion of election coverage, while still upholding your basic journalistic responsibility to communicate to people what’s actually going on.

  • Sterile_Technique@lemmy.worldEnglish
    8·
    8 months ago

    I’ve only seen a couple encouraging people not to vote. Most of the folks pissed off at Biden for supporting genocide are still planning on voting for him - the genocide situation would be WAY worse under Trump. One of the reasons we’re so pissed off (y’know, just in case genocide isn’t reason enough by itself) is that Biden doing this WILL discourage his potential voters, and could very well be the thing that hands Trump the presidency. Those potential voters are going to be influenced by Biden’s actions, not internet trolls.

    The criticism Biden’s getting about his support for genocide is constructive and necessary, cuz he needs to fucking stop!

     

    And just in case it needs to be said: VOTE BIDEN. Regardless of how he handles Isreal. If Trump takes power again, Palestine is fucked, Ukraine is fucked, Taiwan is fucked, your rights and neighbors are fucked, the climate is fucked (well, faster than it already is, at least), our democracy is fucked… this is not hyperbole: seriously, vote for the guy the has the best shot against Trump, and that guy is Biden.

      • cygon@lemmy.world
        6·
        8 months ago

        I’ve seen these people pop up a lot here, too.

        I just assumed that this is the flavor of far-right influencing campaigns we get to see on Lemmy. Since the normal “far-right and Russia good, liberals and EU/Democrats bad because {manliness/financial elite/globalism/cabal}” angle is pretty much a lost cause here, the next best thing they can do is reduce turnout via resignation and bitterness.

        • Zipitydew
          4·
          8 months ago

          That’s exactly what it is. The best way to get the left to stay home is focusing on ideological purity. They’ll suggest Biden isn’t a true leftist therefore you’re not upholding your morals if you vote for him. Then say if you do still feel the need to vote pick Cornell West or Jill Stein. It’s so obvious I have about a dozen accounts tagged now. It’s even the same tactic foreign influence used in 2016.

      • mozz@mbin.grits.devOP
        41·
        8 months ago

        I think they’re almost all trolls. There tend to be little weirdnesses or inconsistencies in their stories if you really look at where they say they’re coming from and compare it to what they’re doing and saying. And their heart’s not really in it. There tend to be like 1 or 2 things they like to say about any given situation, and then once they’ve got their talking points in, it’s just content-free rudeness or sudden silence or them changing the subject to something else. Usually people who are interested enough in politics to talk about it to strangers on the internet have some sort of learned knowledge base in it even if it’s a little shallow or one-sided. With them it’s literally “Rail strike, union buster, QED, next topic pls.”

        Trying to “win” a debate with them is obviously pure futility but I actually think it’s good for the discourse to have them around spouting this stuff for as long as they’re going to do such a crappy job at it. It’s like a politics version of Cunningham’s Law.

        • HACKthePRISONS@kolektiva.social
          15·
          8 months ago

          > There tend to be little weirdnesses or inconsistencies in their stories if you really look at where they say they’re coming from and compare it to what they’re doing and saying. And their heart’s not really in it.

          can you explain this more?