The mods there have decided to allow underage looking content, skirting close to CP. Unless we want such disgusting stuff on our feed, I think we should defederate from that instance.

Pinging @ernest as well.

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        Nah mate, people liking violent video games does not make them violent. People seeking sexual gratification from underage looking cartoons are definitely paedos, and you’re a fucking moron at best if you can’t see that. Probably just trying to defend your own proclivities though lmao.

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          people liking violent video games does not make them violent. People seeking sexual gratification from underage looking cartoons are definitely paedos

          why? where’s the difference?

          violent videogames are fiction
          cartoons are fiction

          Just because you enjoy killing hookers in GTA does not mean you are going to start killing hookers in real life as a hobby
          Just because you like a cartoon does not means you enjoy its real-life equivalent

          it’s the same situation, saying one thing is ok and the other is wrong is being an hypocrite.

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            Are you seriously asking how people getting sexual gratification from underage looking people does not make them paedos? Get the fuck out you absolute shitstain.

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              Are you seriously asking how people getting sexual gratification from underage looking people does not make them paedos?

              Gotcha, finally found the issue.
              I can tell the difference between a fictional cartoon character and real people. It looks like you can’t. Apply your own advice and go to see a therapist ASAP.

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                Bro, doesn’t matter if they’re real or not, if you get sexual gratification from it, you’re a fucking nonce. That’s why so many countries have laws against it. Fucking hell.

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                  Then I ask again, tell me what’s the difference between getting gratification from killing people in a videogame and getting gratification by looking at a cartoon (not people)

                  you keep avoiding to reply this question.

                  That’s why so many countries have laws against it

                  Paris had a law that forbade women wearing trousers, should that law be applied country-wise first and then worldwide? That law existed for a reason, I guess

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                What you are attempting to arrive at is The Gamer’s Dilemma, which has also been discussed at a scholarly level.

                The normalization of underage imagery, as discussed in the aforementioned dilemma, also discussed scholarly extensively, does have a correlation with increased viewing of imagery that does have victims (correlation does NOT mean that every single person end up viewing the additional imagery, just that there is a correlation statistically).

                You asked me if I would have wanted to ban violent video games before the publication of the studies on them, but the thing is that I wait for information and studies before making decisions on things, and the have been studies on this topic.

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                  What exactly is that google scholar search meant to prove? I realize it’s been discussed, I just don’t have the links off hand.

                  but the thing is that I wait for information and studies before making decisions on things, and the have been studies on this topic.

                  Yeah there have been studies. They either say “we don’t know”, or they show it can prevent pedophiles from acting on their urges.

                  correlation does NOT mean that every single person end up viewing the additional imagery, just that there is a correlation statistically

                  Is exactly the point. There’s a correlation between people who look at real child porn to people who look at animated child porn. That’s just incredibly obvious, but tells us absolutely nothing about whether it’s helpful or harmful.

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                    You are telling me that you do not find it telling at all that there was no correlation between playing violent video games and aggressive/violent behavior but there is a correlation between viewing the animated content (which, as some higher in this thread are meant to represent characters of age - sometimes supposed to be 5000 years old - but appear childlike) to then viewing CP?

                    There’s a correlation between people who look at real child porn to people who look at animated child porn. That’s just incredibly obvious

                    A) why should that be obvious? It’s different forms of media. Why should anyone assume that those who want to look at real CP want to look at anime/animated CP? Just because anyone looks at any porn, would you assume they appreciate animated porn? Why would you make these assumptions?

                    B) this is about the comparison between the correlation between viewing of animated images and the lack of correlation of the video games playing. Both of these hypotheses provided situations in which there are victims and searched for a potential warning signs to identify a precursor to the activity. The are many aggressive/violent illegal crimes studied, and many people that play violent video games, but there is not a statistically significant overlap. Those that are violent have other precursors as warning signs. If this were the same for these animated images, those images would have their own audience while those that view CP with real victims would have a completely separate audience without a statistically significant overlap. Instead, there is a correlation, and very vocal defenders that continue to normalize it, which deepens the issue, providing more support to this that view CP and exploiting those harmed even more and normalizing it more.