• PastaCeci@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    3
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    8 months ago

    The son of someone involved in a literal fascist overthrow plot in the 30s became the head of the CIA which takes over governments then the President. His son then stole an election and allowed 9/11 to happen

    • _haha_oh_wow_
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      8 months ago

      Nice non-sequitur but that doesn’t excuse anyone of anything.

      • PastaCeci@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        edit-2
        8 months ago

        You live in a fascist country that the CIA literally overthrew the government of then instituted a crisis which ushered in a police state. Lots of people disappear and you don’t know because they run your media. Your country maintains black sites around the world including Guantanamo Bay. Your electrify the balls of people and say welp we tortured some folks. You don’t hear about it because whistleblowers regularly wind up dead. Consider yourself lucky that you are white passing enough or have enough money that you are protected from this and get to live in a bubble.

        Death to America

          • PastaCeci@lemmy.ml
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            edit-2
            8 months ago

            Opposition leaders and dissidents do not get regularly assassinated by the government in the US for starters.

            The US internally disappearing and/or killing anyone who speaks out against it.

            Yes they do. What do you think happened to Martin Luther King Jr, Malcom X or Fred Hampton? What do you think happened or all the budding leaders you never hear about. You have a child’s understanding of the world you live in.

            Because you have no historical or material context at all this needs to be explained to you. You live in a totalitarian fascist police state and are not informed of the death that occurs around you.

            Nice that you can throw around big words like non sequitur. You only can’t follow this because you have an American education.

            • Pipoca@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              8 months ago

              If that’s something that regularly happens in the US, do you have any examples from the last decade, instead of three examples from 55-60 years ago?

              • PastaCeci@lemmy.ml
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                edit-2
                8 months ago

                Interesting also that you picked out the point that the obvious assassinations happened 55 years ago and are demanding evidence from the past 10 years only as if you haven’t had the same now geriatric people in charge, but said nothing about the fact that you extremely recently in the past 10 years electrified the balls of people which is internationally recognized as torture in a country you made up the reason for invading. People defending their homes just like the Ukranians were tied up in American black sites while they electrified their testicles and took pictures of it smiling. You think these people aren’t willing to kill threats?

              • PastaCeci@lemmy.ml
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                edit-2
                8 months ago

                It does regularly happen in the US and we are not informed. There is no mechanism for informing you or reporting on information from the interior of the US. There is a complete lockdown on information in your country. There are no more reputable journalists, no more reputable local news papers, no reputable national news organizations. 9/11 was your Reichstag fire and you don’t even realize. Literally last week a military defense contractor whistleblower was killed. They’re smart enough to kill these people early by police violence or pushing them into prison for made up non violent crimes before people are a problem.

                There are over 2 million people incarcerated in the US, the largest number of any country in the world by far and one of the highest rate of incarceration by far. Your missing leaders are in there.

            • _haha_oh_wow_
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              edit-2
              8 months ago

              Ok, 60+ year old examples aside, how does any of that excuse anything anyone else does?

              It fucking doesn’t!

              • PastaCeci@lemmy.ml
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                2
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                edit-2
                8 months ago

                This is the actual non sequitur. Your original comment is this:

                The US needs ranked choice voting badly, but to say the only difference between the US and Russia is the two party system is just straight up incorrect. Opposition leaders and dissidents do not get regularly assassinated by the government in the US for starters.

                This is factually incorrect in regards to the US. Your government regularly does murder dissidents. Nowhere in this chain am I excusing Russia, I am explaining to you that the US and Russia are not different. You are both corrupt, capitalist, fascist military-industrial empires that must be destroyed and have no redeeming value. Your point here is a complete non sequitur.

                Totalitarianism is about thought control. The US has that so tight over its population you can’t even see the forest for the trees.

                • _haha_oh_wow_
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  arrow-down
                  1
                  ·
                  8 months ago

                  k, you just give Putin a free pass then buddy because if one nation does terrible shit that magically makes it all ok for everyone else. Totally reasonable.

                  • PastaCeci@lemmy.ml
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    ·
                    edit-2
                    8 months ago

                    Not sure where you got that anyone is getting a pass from, your ass probably because you aren’t reading or understanding a god damn thing. Fuck Russia. Fuck America. Fuck you.