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    8 months ago

    Stop emissions. There’s a lot of negative effects to society for doing that, but that’s the only real answer at this point. It also isn’t going to avoid decades of worsening conditions, but there isn’t a solution for that. All we can really do is stop continuing the damage we’re still doing, even after decades of knowing we were doing it.

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        8 months ago

        You are too cute. Would you prefer this? … Regulate. It really is that simple.

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      8 months ago

      It also isn’t going to avoid decades of worsening conditions, but there isn’t a solution for that.

      Various geoengineering techniques are solutions for that. We should be studying those in greater detail.

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        Geoengineering will have its own issues that may make things worse in the long run, but the worst effect will be it leveraged as a reason to continue business as usual. That’s why I simply said we have to stop emissions. If we can’t do that, then there’s only one direction we can go (and are going, faster each year).

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          But as you said, stopping emissions won’t avoid decades of worsening conditions. I think actually stopping those decades of worsening conditions is more important than a hypothetical “moral hazard” concern.

          Frankly, this argument always bothered me. When someone is sick you try to treat both the underlying cause and the symptoms. It would be morally bankrupt and downright ridiculous to say “let the patient suffer, it’s the only way he’ll learn.” Especially if the symptoms themselves could be fatal. And especially when the people suffering aren’t the ones who actually “need to learn.” When millions of people are starving to death in third-world nations or drowning when their overloaded refugee ships are turned away from wealthy ports, will you look them in the eye and tell them it’s necessary because otherwise oil company executives might not be as motivated to reduce emissions?

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      8 months ago

      Stop emissions.

      A simple sounding answer that is almost impossible to put into practice in a short period of time.

      You can’t simply go cold turkey.

      Far too many people would suffer, and mostly the people who aren’t the worst causes of the problem.

      And even if any government tried, the effort would be delayed and watered down by decades of lawsuits and attacks from basically everyone.