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    Is it rly a surprise that people lean further left and further right, into the extreme political right and the extreme political left?

    All I know is I have been called a “leftist” for not wanting to compromise with people who think trans people shouldn’t be allowed to live. At best they want them to live a segregated existence. If that’s “extreme” and “polarized” of me then something is really, really broken.

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        Trans right activists have pushed far too strong and too far. Probably as well in a reactionary sense to an extremist right position.

        What does this even mean? Why is there a speed limit on giving people equal rights? What did trans people do to make republicans kick them out of bathrooms and legislate away pronouns?

        I’m not going to bother continuing to respond to your other points. You’re clearly a bigot/transphobic. You think they deserve this.

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        It’s not really hard to understand. Gender and sex are different things. Trans rights debates aren’t ignoring biology, because gender has nothing to do with biology (that would be sex).

        In simpler terms, sex is determined by biology - genetics, genitals you were born with, etc., and gender is determined by what an individual perceives themselves to be.

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            Ok buddy. You’re thinking way too hard about it. There isn’t an easier way for me to explain it than I have already, so I guess just accept the fact that you’re lost.

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                It does make sense, you’re just not grasping it. Think of it more as: gender is mental, sex is physical. It’s really not complicated.

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                    Yes I understood by now that gender is mental. But now tell me, how it does differentiate from a delusion.

                    Because, again, there is a difference between gender identity and biological sex. For most people, they align (male sex + male gender = alignment). For trans people, it doesn’t. Your body will be one thing, but your brain tells you that your body is wrong. This isn’t a “delusion”, it’s a recognized condition called dysphoria (there are studies that show there’s a difference in the brain that causes this).

                    We would usually arrange just fine if we would have been born in a body of a different sex. Because we adapt.

                    Correct, and humans would adapt by assuming the gender roles of the sex / gender they feel they align with.

                    I would do just fine in a female body. I wouldn’t care much.

                    Awesome, but there are many trans individuals who realize that they’re trans but don’t care to transition or change their body, and the cool thing is, that doesn’t make them any less valid. Everyone is different.

                    Why would I even see a problem in my sex or gender or whatever if I have problems that annoy me so much more?

                    Pretty simply, because for some people, the problem with their gender (gender dysphoria) is stronger than problems that would annoy others much more. Again, everyone is different.

                    The belief to be born in the wrong body is delusion.

                    Well like I said previously, it’s not a belief, it’s a difference in the brain. You might think it’s a belief and a delusion, but science says you’re wrong.

                    Some people believe into the bible.

                    And many people don’t. I was raised to be a Christian, and quickly ditched that bs as soon as I figured out I could think for myself. I don’t think the words written in a book that a group of people follow should be the key to how people should live their lives. Ironically though, there isn’t anything in the bible that suggests transgender is delusional or wrong. In biblical times, there were eunuchs (believed to be early trans people), and Jesus actually supported them.

                    But I refuse to accept a delusion as reality. And I do not want to be forced to pretend to believe into your delusion.

                    Besides the fact that it’s not delusion, what is it do you feel like you’re being forced to do? If someone wishes to be addressed by a certain pronoun, you won’t comply? How does anyone being transgender affect your life in any real way, whatsoever?