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      8 months ago

      Corrupt politicians can simply ignore the law. If they didn’t ignore it, they wouldn’t be very corrupt.

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          8 months ago

          Good point. My statement was a bit reductive, I just worry when it comes to creating the kind of blanket ban on stuff that people can work around if they’re powerful enough.

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        This is not true in France. Politicians that have proven fraud are arrested and charged. In France we have Sarkozy, Cahuzac, Fillon that were all charged with crimes.

        They were president, minister and presidential candidate respectively. I’d be surprised if it was different in the USA. I’m seeing that trump is also being charged, the system seems to be working.

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      Consumers payments deserves their privacy, but business ones needs absolutely to be fully traceable.

      Could it be possible to use two different yet identical interchangeable currencies, one traceable for making business only, and one untraceable for consumers retail transactions?

      loosely i.e.

      • wages are Business currency converted and paid in Consumer currency, accounted for the amount paid to the consumer in his name
      • end-users/home/consumer purchases are made from consumers anonymously in Consumer currency, and this is converted converted into Business currency upon transaction, keeping only the consumer name anonymous but tracing everything else
      • B2B transactions are made in Business currency, fully traceable

      … I don’t know there is probably still a loophole

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      I am pretty sure the lesser part of corruption is cash. Probably more stuff like exchanging a lucrative contract for political support.

      They are not stupid. Afterall cash needs to be explained, a good contract gives you cash and the explanation.

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        Cash is mostly traceable at point of contact unless you keep it in a money bin and don’t spend it, though…

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          Not necessarily, it’s only traceable if you generate receipts on both sides. I don’t know about EU law, but in the US, you only need to report cash deposits if they’re over $10k, and if your deposits are always over $10k (e.g. you’re a big retailer or something), another $10k here and there won’t raise any eyebrows.

          Cash is still king when it comes to corruption since it’s easy to exchange it for favors w/o generating a receipt at all.

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        8 months ago

        The 500€ bill was removed from circulation because it was used almost exclusively for corruption and illegal trade.

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      8 months ago

      so ban it only for government (people and assets) related transactions

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      True that. The system that we have is the product of many painful lessons, taught to us by global crises and crimes. People, who oppose this system, should stop reading nonsense on reddit and 4chan, and start with books and lectures from educated economists.

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      8 months ago

      Putin’s corruption works fine without anonymous payments

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        That’s literally what businesses do, it’s called accounting. And if you read the underlying article and/or law, you’d see that this is targeting businesses, not individuals.

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        There’s a special status for some people in Russia, it’s called Foreign Agent, and I believe they need to write down everything they spend money on this way