• RogueBanana@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      39
      ·
      8 months ago

      Honestly that actually looks like a lot especially since this doesn’t seem to include 1 time donations and donating to your home instances.

  • Dave@lemmy.nz
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    59
    ·
    edit-2
    8 months ago

    I think the number is much higher if you consider all the people donating to their local server.

    Plus your numbers seem off. For example, Librapay shows that there are currently over 300 people with weekly donations. Where are past or one time donors listed?

    Patreon is paying out $2k a month, and has over 400 donors.

    Your number seems much more like the number of regular donors rather than the total number of donors ever.

      • Dave@lemmy.nz
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        13
        ·
        8 months ago

        The links here are specifically the donation links to donate to the Lemmy devs. So even though they link to Open Collective, that’s specifically the Lemmy dev one. There are others for other instances.

        • Leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          13
          ·
          8 months ago

          Sure, but the body of the post mentions donating to devs and instance owners. I’m being pedantic I know, but I think it would be a more informative post if it’d made clear what the donation numbers refer to and what they don’t.

      • Dave@lemmy.nz
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        8 months ago

        Yeah, that’s the number of current donors with a regular donation. They have a goal of supporting 3 devs full time from regular donations, and this is showing their progress towards that goal.

  • lemmyingly@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    13
    ·
    8 months ago

    Is there any transparency around the donations?

    • What’s the sum of the donations?
    • What’s the split between reoccurring donations and one off donations?
    • How many mouths does it feed?
    • How many of those mouths are full time?
    • What’s the split between the mouths?
    • Dessalines@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      24
      ·
      8 months ago

      Our current donation amounts, summing from the various platforms, and live updated every few hours, are here: https://join-lemmy.org/donate

      Currently we have 2 full time devs(nutomic and me, splitting ~1 dev salary, as you can see from the above link), and have 2-3 more that we’d like to add as fulltime to our little dev coop.

      We’re also in the process of getting another year of funding from NLNet (we’ll announce this once its finalized), which will go to the new devs we’re trying to onboard.

      • lemmyingly@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        8 months ago

        Is there a difference between a donation and a sponsor? As in are the NLNet contributions included in that €4k value?

        Since you’ve used different terms it makes me think they’re different.

        • Dessalines@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          9
          ·
          8 months ago

          We sometimes get one-off crypto donations, but they’re pretty rare. The totals on that site are the recurring donations / sponsors, which helps make it easier to estimate our yearly budget.

          NLnet is separate from that above also, and was what made lemmy possible by letting us work on it full-time, for most of its history. We’ve been trying to shift to a sponsorship / recurring donation model, as that’s more sustainable for the future, and will let us grow the co-op better.

          • lemmyingly@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            arrow-down
            5
            ·
            8 months ago

            Ah okay, so it’s not as transparent as it seems? It sounds like some of the contributions are hidden.

              • lemmyingly@lemm.ee
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                3
                ·
                8 months ago

                NLnet is separate from that above also, and was what made lemmy possible by letting us work on it full-time, for most of its history.

                Forgive my misunderstanding. I don’t understand this sentence then. I read it as the NLnet contributions are not included in the €4k value. May you clarify please?

    • Wojwo@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      8 months ago

      Excellent questions. I’d be more likely to donate if there was a page answering them.

  • Dariusmiles2123
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    9
    ·
    edit-2
    8 months ago

    That number seems a bit low, but it’s really important to support Lemmy and your instance.

    I’d love to support my instance, but it ain’t doable for now (at least it wasn’t when I looked into it around Christmas).

    I also think accepting donations demand some organization with taxes and everything. That’s why some instances don’t accept them.

    • Cows Look Like MapsOP
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      8 months ago

      Hey, if you can’t swing it right now, that’s totally OK. The beauty of FOSS is how accessible it is.

      • Dariusmiles2123
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        8 months ago

        Well I can but my instance doesn’t accept money for now.

        I guess all the steps you have to go through to accept donations are disuading some maintainers.

  • RayOfSunlight@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    6
    ·
    8 months ago

    Kinda reminds me of youtuber asking people to suscribe their channels because most of the users watching their videos are not suscribed, it’s not gonna change, but in this case, it would be nice if people could donate, i personally can’t, i wish, but i can’t

    • Eezyville
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      8 months ago

      I can and do donate to the Lemmy project. I should also donate to the instances I use. I’ll donate for you as well, I don’t even need Netflix.

  • TCB13@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    5
    arrow-down
    21
    ·
    edit-2
    8 months ago

    How am I supposed to donate to a project that forces me to select the language at the end of each post?

    Fucks sake, is it that hard to have a dropdown under settings for the default language?

    And to be fair, what’s the point? The people running the biggest instances will eventually sell all their user’s data to train LLMs anyways. There’s no guarantee they won’t.

    • Magnor@lemmy.magnor.ovh
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      edit-2
      8 months ago

      Since all instances mirror comments on subscribed communities you could simply create your own instance, leech it all and sell to LLMs. No need to go to the trouble of hosting a large instance.

      • TCB13@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        8 months ago

        Majority of people in this world speaks two languages or more.

        And that’s exactly the point, I do too. However most of what I post is English and lemmy should have a “default post language” option to avoid that issue. I’m happy with changing the language to anything other than English on the 20% of the time I’m not writing in English however I’m not happy to have to pick English around 80% of the time. See the problem now?

    • Andromxda 🇺🇦🇵🇸🇹🇼@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      8 months ago

      Fucks sake, is it that hard to have a dropdown under settings for the default language?

      There is a language setting. Also, you don’t have to select a language, it’s optional.

      The people running the biggest instances will eventually sell all their user’s data to train LLMs anyways.

      Pure speculation, no evidence.

      • TCB13@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        8 months ago

        There is a language setting. Also, you don’t have to select a language, it’s optional.

        See you don’t know what you’re talking about:

        I’ve my languages selected yet there’s no option for a default language.