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    8 months ago

    This asshole fucked us all over and made sure we never had the single payer option on the ACA.

    He sold us all out for the insurance companies. For that he can fuck right off into eternity.

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    8 months ago

    This guy almost singlehandedly eliminated the public option for healthcare in this country.

    For that he can get fucked.

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      No, HE DID. The dems needed his vote to pass the ACA, and he made them get rid of the single payer option.

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        8 months ago

        He had help. Ben Nelson deserves as much blame as the Democratic Party’s vp nominee.

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        Dems are masters of “just needed this one ‘centrist’ vote” between their rank to be sure nothing progressive pass.

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          If you have no margin of error then that’s the way it is. Every vote can be a veto.

          What’s really interesting is how the bar was 60 votes when this was happening but it’s now 50 votes due to massive watering down of veto power in the Senate.

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        Obits are usually written years before someone dies. What is included and not included is on purpose. Obit writer is a full time job for big papers. A good obit writer has a massive trove of them written about living folks. Its not (currently) a bot thing.

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    This fucker did so much damage to American democracy. I’m not one to celebrate anyone’s death, but I will not miss this asshole.

    Note: I am Jewish, this man has never represented me or my religion.

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    8 months ago

    I will always remember Joe Lieberman for his attempts to take away my health care and video games.

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    This asshole destroyed the public option, then a few years later my life was destroyed by medical bankruptcy.

    It is sad that he got to live a full life surrounded by loved ones. He deserved so much worse.

    Rest in piss, you wont be missed.

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    I say this a lot, but I’ll do it again. We should always speak good of the dead.

    Joe Lieberman is dead. Good.

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      I thought this might be on a post I made about Biden and I was gearing up for an argument lol. But nah, nothing to dispute there

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        8 months ago

        Biden ran on revisiting the public option in 2020 then didn’t even try to do anything about it.

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    Centrists should read this thread to see how well they are regarded by history.

    Hold back progress and call your obstruction “incrementalism” and you will have people celebrate your death.

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      No offense, but Lemmy /= history books. These are the same history books that laud Reagan

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        Reagan’s enshrining as a conservative saint was largely due to the efforts of Grover Norquist in the 90s.

        Lieberman has no Norquist, as neither side cares for centrists. There will be some weird glowing op-eds from the usual corporate rags, but they lack the power they had in the 90s.

        He will mostly be forgotten except in places like Lemmy, where he will pop up as one of those “hey did you know why we don’t have proper healthcare?” TIL posts.

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        And the lesson centrists took from that is “be like Reagan.”

        Which explains congress’ actions to prevent the rail strike.

        EDIT: Also, it’s real neat that when Lemmy is in agreement that centrism is garbage that holds the nation back, Lemmy isn’t reality and its consensus can be ignored. But say that Biden should stop supporting Netanyahu’s genocide, and suddenly Lemmy is used by so many people and is so instrumental in the formation of public opinion that Russia is paying shills to be here.

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    Everybody’s talking about his role in the ACA and video games, but I am firmly of the belief that if Gore hadn’t picked him for VP he would have won the election. Having Lieberman on the ticket turned off enough people on the left.

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      Gore did win the election. He only didn’t get into office because a violent Republican coup (the “Brooks Brothers Riot”) forcibly stopped the votes from being counted.

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        I’m aware that Gore did, in fact, win the election. However, without the factors that mindbleach mentioned and, I think, Lieberman being on the ticket it would have taken the powers of Brooks Brothers, Banana Republic, and Forever 21 combined to overturn it.

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      Or if Nader wasn’t an egotist spoiler candidate.

      Or if Jeb! hadn’t played stupid games with counting the goddamn votes.

      Or if Roger fucking Stone hadn’t staged a riot specifically to ruin that counting process.

      Or if the Supreme Court hadn’t already been corrupted by Federalist Society bastards.

      And this stupid instance scolds people for “celebrating death,” like it’s any rando commenter’s fault that an actively harmful force died old and rich. As if newspapers in 1945 should’ve read “Hitler dies, unfortunately.” Nah: you can read some obituaries with great joy. You wanna stop people from sharing the list they look forward to? Sure, okay, if I squint I can see how that’s untoward. But it is impossible to do harm… after.

      This man is partly responsible for empowering absolute monsters. His failures may have contributed to threats to human life on this planet. Now he’s dead. I can manage a response stronger than than apathy. Don’t expect anything kinder.

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          All these points of failure can go fuck themselves, independently and individually.

          We’ve been let down by a lot of people.