• maynarkh@feddit.nl
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    9 months ago

    *bad Devs

    Or devs who don’t give a shit. Most places have a lot of people who don’t give a shit because the company does not give a shit about them either.

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      What’s the diff between a bad dev and a dev that doesn’t care? Either way, whether ist lack of skill or care, a bad dev is a bad dev at the end of the day.

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        I can be good at a trade, but if I’m working for a shit company with shit pay and shit treatment, they’re not going to get my best work.

        You get out what you put in, that’s something employers don’t realise.

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        The difference is whether the fault for the leak of your personal data rests with the worker who was incompetent, or the employer who didn’t pay for proper secure software.

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            Depends on the case TBH. If devs barely have time and are constantly crunching due to mismanagement, or are extremely disengaged due to mismanagement, I wouldn’t fault them.

            Usually it’s the lacking processes, though. There are ways to make sure this doesn’t happen, and it doesn’t depend on the individual, but always the organization.

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          A good dev would unionize their workplace and push back. A dev who doesn’t care and just clocks on bad work because their boss sucks is not a good dev. Fight back.

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            Yeah sure, because everyone has the skills, time, energy and safety required to unionize a shitty workplace they only go to to be able to pay their rent.

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              Dev jobs are not hard to come by and they pay very well. It’s not like being a day laborer or something where we are scraping the bottom of the barrel. Have a little courage.

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                Looks like your mind is set. I wish you a good day and I hope you pick up a little more empathy along your way, and I hope some day you’ll get that a lot of people feel trapped where they are.