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    1511 months ago

    Very cool! I’m mostly excited to see the boom of the solar energy industry. Not just for selling but also for personal use. Feel like a whole new thing is coming that somehow not tainted by another industry hidden interests

  • @[email protected]
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    711 months ago

    Would be nice to see this at animal sanctuaries, though I can imagine cows trying to sit on the panels 🥲

  • VeganPizza69 Ⓥ
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    This is why I have to unsubscribe from “solarpunk” spaces. All the bleeding carnists not understanding the horror and damage of animal industry.

    Bye!

    • Treevan 🇦🇺
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      1811 months ago

      They’re posting content.

      Why don’t you post some stuff that shows a better way to do it so you can educate them? Leaving doesn’t help anyone learn.

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        Having to teach adults that enslaving and slaughtering animals isn’t a good thing gets very, very tiring after a very short time considering the immediate horror of the situation and the unending stubbornness of pissbaby carnists

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          But I’m not saying that. I’m saying find examples of awesome systems to share as content. Animal agriculture is the worst but if you aren’t sharing examples of working systems then you can’t be the change we want to see.

          No one wants pissing matches back and forth, let your content do the talking.

          • @paracel
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            Please stop with your odd content obsession. I’m only addressing your comment you shared with us. I have no interest in a protracted period of finding vegan solarpunk “content”. The issue is obvious and the solution is obvious and I put a lot of energy into the cause but on a different platform than this. There’s no pissing contest. I’m rightfully angry.

            • Treevan 🇦🇺
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              311 months ago

              Again, that’s not what was suggested but you do you. This is a new platform finding its feet, all of us here are trying to work out what will work together.

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                111 months ago

                Ok sure but again, absolutely minuscule backroom topic compared to the enduring struggle for animal rights. I can comment about things I feel strongly about and I will. You’re just being quite strange to be honest. Lemmy has nothing to do with my own thoughts

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                  If you don’t get it, you don’t get it. That’s fine.

                  I’m coming from a different perspective and you’re coming from your one. Mine is inclusive, yours is justice.

                  I was asking the people passionate about ethical system to replace the content from the literal bot with their own so it was an education experience and then we don’t need the lesser suited content from the bot. Has there been an uptick in content? I don’t think anyone who argued has posted anything yet which is where I was coming from. They can argue but when it comes down to making some change through a bit of work…crickets. Sometimes I feel that the argument for them is the point.

                  You’re focusing your argument on the fact that a person might keep their own animals. I don’t give a fuck about whether they do or not. I just like having a quick scroll with diverse content and I just pass by the stuff I’m not interested in. I don’t harp on the 15% I don’t like. I don’t care that it’s there even if I hate it. I’m probably much older than you which might explain the difference in care factors.

            • Treevan 🇦🇺
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              711 months ago

              That’s your opinion. I dont feel like I’m being negative, it would be nicer if you didn’t assume things about me by a misconstrued couple of sentences. I also don’t believe I’m bring critical, nor intending to be, I’m trying to find a middle ground where we can improve the solarpunk instance through the delivery of superior content that suits our ethical ecological leanings. We are discussing how we might possibly do that.

              Going through your post history I can see you are quite argumentative at times so I’m not sure we will find some common ground. I’m sorry I’ve angered you.

              In regards to content, I have literally posted hundreds of things to Lemmy, it’s been a full time job for the past month. Can’t you help pick up the slack? It’s a community after all.

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          And nothing changes if you complain and whine. Like I just said in my other comment, bring some content in and illustrate ethical systems, drown out the other shit you don’t want to see.

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              211 months ago

              Fixed.

              Now do you want to address the point of my reply or is this how you go about your internet discourse only?

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                  I dont understand. I can’t see complaining. I really don’t know what you are talking about.

                  I’ve posted a Syntropic system (no animal ag) to another community, I’ve educated on other ecological systems in use, I’ve posted organic techniques in regeneration, I’ve posted 300 environmental news stories to help educate about the climate crisis and biodiversity loss across a number of communities. I don’t know what else I can do.

                  You seem quite passionate. What do you have in ethical horticultural systems that I could read about?

                  Edit: I’ll just add this in to counter the “carnist” nature of the OP. This was posted by “Sam BOT” who is the OP of this post, to this community 2 days ago, showing a similar solar system growing crops instead: https://lemmy.world/post/2024954

        • @[email protected]
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          311 months ago

          How do you propose making any effective change to the world around you when you are so utterly divorced from it?

            • @[email protected]
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              411 months ago

              That’s a yikes from me, dawg. Good luck in your journey to not being this type of person.

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                Sure that guys comment there was odd but how is his first comment off at all? Animal enslavement and slaughter is horrific. Its unnecessary. It’s the most pointed brutal tip of humanity’s ego and destruction. I’ve seen slaughterhouse workers in my hometown in Ireland turn to every drug under the sun to deal with the PTSD from the industry. It destroys everything it touches by design. I hope in your lifetime you’ll see the world turn against it and join us

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      Wait. Is this a thing? Solarpunk is pro animal agriculture and meat? I’m naive to the movement/philosophy/genre, but still I’d find that surprising.

      As for the video, it’s about farming practices today adopting solar. Pretty hard to avoid the reality of animal agriculture in that context.

      • Treevan 🇦🇺
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        911 months ago

        No, I don’t think solarpunk is. I think extreme reactions to things people don’t like are more the norm.

        It’s content more suited to farming but it’s content. Yeah, we need discussions about what content is suitable but quitting as soon as you see something you don’t like isn’t the discussion that needs to be had.

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        911 months ago

        It’s also worth pointing out that herding/grazing animals play an important role in the ecosystem and soil restoration. They can and should be incorporated in solarpunk whether or not they are consumed. Our best indicator of when humans arrived at a location is when the local megafauna died off.

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          It’s also kinda surprising to me that people are assuming that this would be for mean animals specifically. I didn’t watch the video but it seems to me there is not reason this couldnt be for non-animal-harming animal agriculture, things like dairy cows, sheep, llamas, goats, etc. Even horses for riding or smthn. As I understand it solarpunk is cool with that, especially of it’s living with the animals for mutual benefit.

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        Considering SolarPunk is high tech, it’d be lab grown artificial meat and robotic agriculture if anything.

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      111 months ago

      With ya on this one. Really wish people would stop with their wierd insistence on putting solar panels in places should be eradicated. Don’t put solar panels on parking lots and cattle ranches. Get rid of parking lots and cattle ranches.