Clout learns there’s been some serious turnover in Sen. John Fetterman’s office. In the last month, all three of Fetterman’s top communications staffers have left Capitol Hill.

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    9 months ago

    He pulled a shotgun on a man back in 2013, so before he was even elected, and well before his stroke, so I have no idea how any of what you said relates at all.

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      9 months ago

      but in situations like you’re example, someone reacts fast and those implicit biases against other races presents.

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        So you agree- he’s racist.

        Having worked in security for decades, including training people to use firearms… everyone is fucking racist.

        Most people have the decency to not act on it to that extreme, though,

        The only ones who do, are the ones who don’t care that they’re racist. For example, in bias training the “shoot, no-shoot” test (which is actually kinda flawed), most cops, and most anyone whose had similar training know better- and on the test can flash the correct answer.

        This doesn’t mean, in the field, knowing they can get away with it, that racist cops always behave appropriately.

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          Most people have the decency to not act on it to that extreme, though,

          And if you’ll scroll up a couple comments, you’ll see a very in depth explanation of why he likely can’t control his implicit biases…

          You’re acting like someone that can’t control them, is always choosing not to.

          While also implying someone who controls it because they know those implicit biases are wrong, is the same as someone who believes they’re right, but hides them for optics. There’s literally no way to change implicit biases once you’re old enough to understand what they are, it’s already too late.

          But I can’t explain it any better than I already have. Those were the cliff notes already.

          I think it would be best if you just read this thread again after calming down.

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            9 months ago

            And if you were paying attention, you’d have seen how that the shotgun thing happened before he was in office. Before his stroke.

            I liked the guy before too. I was fooled. It’s okay, I’m not omniscient.

            Edit: Here’s a 2022 article on the 2013 incident.
            and a 2013 article

            He jumped in a truck and chased down a guy that was running after getting spooked by fireworks. Getting spooked is understandable. Chasing a guy down in a truck is not. Brandishing a weapon to detain the guy you have no cause to detain; after chasing him down?

            This story reads more like Ahmad Arbery, than hero mayor. Maybe he tried to right the wrong, but he still did wrong- and very nearly got a man killed.

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        He held an innocent man basically hostage with a shotgun. Folks love making excuses to handwave racism and now are shocked that Fetterman is what he is now.

        If only there was this much sympathy for the man he pulled a gun on.

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          Remember when the dude forgave him and endorsed him? No? That doesn’t fit your narrative, does it?

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              How does that change what he did?

              What was done after the incident to rectify the situation is some pretty important context. You should be doing your best to give the whole story when offering your viewpoint on it. What value is getting people to agree with you when the information you’ve shared has details removed?

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          excuses

          Not a single person have made an excuse for Fetterman…

          I’ve given a possible explanation, and a rather detailed one at that.

          Because this is something that’s important to understand.

          And for some reason, that’s made you belligerent and you’ve went from agreeing with me to accusing me of defending racism.

          This has happened before more than a couple times you know?

          Seriously, you agree with me but then as I get deeper than

          Bad thing is bad and not good

          You just do this and start accusing me of endorsing something for explaining the"why" it happened.

          If people stop where you are, we can’t prevent anything, the problem never changes, and it just splits us into two “teams” who tell at each other on the Internet.

          Your strategy will never help anything.

          But to be honest, this is at least the fifth time and I never see any improvement…

          I’m probably going to have to give up on you soon champ.

          Your hearts in the right place, just don’t know where your heads at