• spaduf@slrpnk.netOPM
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    8 months ago

    Anyone who thinks Trump is a representation of masculinity is not someone who’s opinion on the matter I care for.

    While this is a fine personal metric, I think it ignores the growing social power of the strong man right and the related manosphere subcultures.

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      8 months ago

      It’s unrelated, they are not masculinity.

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        8 months ago

        Just because you don’t think so doesn’t mean those things haven’t had influence on the cultural perception of it.

        I understand the desire to separate yourself from those things as an individual. And I don’t know what method will work, but simply telling people the “manosphere” just doesn’t count isn’t going to change anyone’s minds.

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          8 months ago

          Saying manosphere bs represents masculinity is like saying TERFs represent feminism.

          They’re minority extreme angles on a topic, to the point we give them different names so we know what’s being spoken about because they are not the baseline.

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            8 months ago

            That may be the case but it is not a rebuttal to my point.

            Those things have had an influence on the perception of masculinity. And yes, TERFs have had an influence on the perception of feminism. And simply saying they don’t count isn’t an effective way of countering that influence.