Oldie but goodie.

Transcript: Tweet by the SRSLY wrong podcast. Content: “message to my enemies: when the revolution comes you’re not just gonna get the wall, buddy, you’re gonna get four walls, a roof, clean clothes, good food, education, and quality health care because that’s what every human being alive deserves”

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      8 months ago

      Have “the rest of us” lost nearly all their belongings and had to flee in fear of their lives to another country where they have to start from zero? Because that is what it means to be a refugee.

      But I suspect you are just trolling. Go somewhere else with your vile and self-defeating us-vs-them rethoric.

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        Yeah, we’d be a hell of a lot closer to true equality if groups of people who are among those who need help the most were already truly receiving it.

        Unfortunately, the world as it’s currently designed only allows people to live well if they take from others, and those who are prepared to do that have long since realized they live a lot longer if they convince the people they’re stepping on that it’s the guy next to them they should hate, not the guy on top of them.

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      You know those jobs people like you always say those pesky immigrants are taking away from us but the reality is you cant get any Americans to do them? Iv had one of those jobs. Iv done construction where i was the only guy who spoke english instead of Spanish. And i can tell you for damn sure those guys are getting anything for free.

      Either you’re a troll or you got a bad case of social media brain rot.

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      My sibling in Christ: The US is most likely responsible for them being refugees in the first place.

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          Because people who want to target the weak and innocent over the greedy and abusive are the biggest enablers of the world’s problems.

          Considering despite having access to the Internet and all the resources that entails, they still spout such nonsense means they can’t be convinced otherwise through reasoning.

          In other words, for a better world they need to go. They chose the hard way and I’m sick of catering to them as people suffer.

          The better question to ask is will you radicalise before the world is dead?

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            So, who’s gonna decide who’s gonna get shot? How will you avoid a Robbespierre situaion?

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              Imagine posting such a meme (and claiming you support anarchism) but being (or acting) completely ignorant of the paradox of tolerance…

              The reason we don’t have human rights for all is because of people with a vested interest in oppressing others and the systems they maintain, and most will never willingly just give up their power (yes, including the power to be one up from the bottom but being able to punch down at another marginalised group, eg immigrants).

              Which is why there is zero room to tolerate bigotry and oppression, nor those who, given a chance to be better, still refuse.

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                I never claimed I was against self defense. I just refuse to accept the IDF’s definition of the word.

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                  Have you replied to the wrong person? If not, what the fuck does the IDF’s definition of anything have to do with this conversation?

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                    Sorry if that flew over your head. I still refuse your premise that I condone the violence of bigots if I don’t support stalinist death squads.

                    Defending against a bigot’s violence is self-defense. Executions by death squads aren’t.

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                and claiming you support anarchism

                Did you know there is an entire school of anarchism devoted to nonviolence?

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              At the end of the day, it’ll just be the people in charge of whatever band of rebels comes out on top, and whatever local faction of them ends up in power across the country as a result of that. That’s all the founding fathers of the US were. We like to think of them as heroes, but they and their constituents were just the guys who got to choose who was a traitor and who wasn’t. History painted the winners more colorfully than they were, as it always does.

              I’m sure the birth of my country was a terrifying time for anyone who wasn’t squarely proven to be aligned with the revolution, and the same will be true when people have had enough in modern times as well.

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                At the end of the day, it’ll just be the people in charge of whatever band of rebels comes out on top

                Yeah, reminds me of why I prefer anarchism, i.e. bottom-up decision making.

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            You are literally thinking about executing someone because of ONE comment they made and somehow act as if that is going to safe the world. Its just ridiculous.

            I am in no way or form against violent revolution, insurrection, riots, antifascist violence, self defense or plain revenge. But you just said that someone deserved to be executed because of one comment. Idk how a world where this is possible is something worth fighting for and I guess in the end, we wont be on the same side after all.

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            Do the people calling for executions deserve to be executed themselves for being “rabid dogs” like you say? You are batshit insane. Stop calling for peoples’ deaths.

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              Eh sure if i’m a really bad person like pedophiles, human traffickers, rapists etc etc. I’d want you to put a bullet in my head but as far as i’m aware i’m still not, but by all means if i go that way feel free . Also i wasn’t implying the commentors death but saying why some people deserve it and not saying someone should be executed for an edgy comment .

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                You are calling for other people’s deaths and willing to kill. That makes you a murderer in the making.

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                  Oh by that logic you’d not even kill hitler . Also what do you think people do in wars kiss each other ? And i’m pretty sure you’d kill for YOUR life not just for others because you consider others life as lesser and is just a prick now gtfo of my face.

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                    Yes, I wouldn’t even kill Hitler. I wouldn’t kill anyone. Because I am not a murderer. You make plenty of assumptions about me, which feel like projecting.

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            I called a (maybe not) comrade out for their violent and authoritarian delusions. If that counts as defending someone who made a racist and factually wrong comment, I think I stay away from your crowd. Might get shot and stuff

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              It’s the fact that you’re more concerned with the person threatening the bigot, than you are with the bigot threatening marginalised people, especially since one is hypothetical, and the other is very really happening all around you as we type.
              You’re just telling on your priorities, that’s all… ¯\(ツ)

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                I reported the troll and moved on, I think my priorities are actually in a good place. I think its annoying that my open questions gets constructed as defending bigotry, but I guess its not easy to assume good faith on the internet.

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          Ah yes random right wing YouTube channel is a great source of factual information 👍 it’s not like all of the border states have been shipping their immigrants illegally to NYC or anything like that, no not at all.

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            You and your wings.

            This is just one source of thousands. This is literally what’s happening in New York right now.

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              Ok? And it’s been happening since NYCs inception. America is a nation of immigrants, it’s not a new thing in the slightest. It’s just the right has made it a culture war issue.

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                let’s go back to the OP. Remember the topic here. The point is that our government is giving immigrants things that not even natural born citizens & military veterans are receiving. Free housing, free food, living stipends… The rest of us have to work and pay taxes for to earn these things for ourselves! Meanwhile illegal immigrants are getting it for free. What’s going on?