With a electoral system like Ranked Choice voting, people would feel safe to vote for whomsoever they wish, as their vote would still be counted even if their preference didn’t win.
Just search for videos on FPTP voting if you want an explanation on how and why the spoiler effect exists.
Electoral reform is possible in each individual state (for now), we dont need federal reform! Maine and Alaska have already passed electoral reform.
Republicans are moving to make alternative electoral systems illegal in their states. Republicans LOVE first past the post voting. Just sbsolutely adore it. Why would you want to use the same voting system republicans want?
More political parties means a higher percentage of the population is represented by their choices in the voting booth. More people involved in the electoral process, more people engaged.
Its a win win win all around for not just the people, but also for the democratic party. More people voting means more democratic votes. The numbers dont lie. So what’s the hold up blue states?
Some day we will be able to vote for who best represents our interests. We won’t need to grovel on our knees, begging for representationin government. We won’t need to wait for the Republican party to stop existing.
We can do it right now. We don’t have to get over a damn thing. If anyone needs to get over themselves, it would be the democrats who assume they are the only way forward.
Consider starting a campaign to change how we vote in your own state! Force our representatives to compete with fresh outside ideas. We deserve the best representation, not excuses.
Yes. After decades of watching mulish obstinance by moderates and liberals resulting in the party and every commenter like yourself bending over backwards to serve them I’m gonna give it a try.
Then you better hope Biden doesn’t need my vote or starts acting like it real fast.
We’ve never gotten our way. If you think drawing a line at 20 years of patience isn’t sufficient to qualify as adult like behavior then I don’t know what to tell you. Again, go tell moderates and liberals they’ve pushed us for too long. That’s your only hope at this point. I’m done.
Justify it all you want, your behavior is selfish and self-destructive. It is child-like. It is throwing a tantrum in the cereal aisle because Mom won’t buy you Cocoa Pebbles. Dressing it up in these flimsy, asinine justifications doesn’t make you sound smart, it makes you sound deluded.
Why are you using this example to justify how democracy works? Who is “mom” in this situation? Why do they get to decide what we eat? Why would I need someone else to buy something for me? Why are you accusing me of acting like a child but the example simply defines me as a child? I’m not a child therefore I decide what I eat. Change your example to “You as a fully grown adult have decided what to eat” and suddenly my behavior is completely appropriate.
Do you see how ridiculous you sound?
I have no interest in your assessment. I have something you want and you would say anything to get it for free. The answer is “no this is mine you can’t have it for free”. You are reacting like a child to that statement.
Ok, it seems you’re having trouble penetrating the depths of what is a fairly easy metaphor to grasp, so I’ll break it down for you.
You complain that Biden (and presumably most, if not all Democratic presidents thusfar) caters to liberal and moderate political positions, but alienates progressives. You then stated that if he were instead to cater towards progressive positions, it would alienate liberals and moderates. To quote you:
So you ostensibly believe that Biden is in a no-win position, in which he will alienate either the progressives or the more moderate sections of his party. So far, so fine. However, where an adult would recognize that the system is imperfect and that it is not likely to improve by November, you whine and pout that you’re not getting your way (ie. having a president that caters to your political desires), and so you’re going to throw a tantrum in the cereal aisle (refuse to vote, thus making it more likely that someone who caters to your political desires far less than Biden would will become president).
It’s a really simple analogy. And the thing is, I think you recognize that you are being childish. It would certainly explain why you were so reluctant to say that Trump would be worse for America than Biden - you recognized that you would rightly be called out for immaturity because you were prioritizing your selfish need for attention over the good of the nation.
Basically, I think that you know that you are selfish and immature, but you also are self-conscious about that fact. I think that instead of going through some much needed self-reflection, you instead lash out at the world, because that’s a much easier way to salve your ego. I really hope that you do at some point reflect on your actions (or inactions, as the case currently stands), and begin the long and painful process of growing from it. You seem savvy enough to be able to actually contribute in a way that could make a difference, if only you manage to get out of your own way. Until then, you probably shouldn’t be surprised that acting like a child leads people to treat you like a child.
The analogy is simple sure. But you didn’t answer a single question about the parallels. I am an adult living in a democracy so I decide who I will vote for. Go ahead and try to explain to me how that’s at all parallel to me being a child not doing what a parent and provider has told me to do. You can’t, because there is no parallel.
It’s a tantrum. You are selfishly choosing to harm others because you aren’t being catered to.
So are we in agreement there are no parallels? There is no mom? Nobody is picking out cereal for me? You just gave an example of a tantrum and called it an analogy?
Honestly, my friend, you’re reading way too much into it. I expect in a desire to claw back some semblence of a win in order to salve your bruised ego, but hey - I’m not a psychologist. It was a really simple analogy. You’re just being pedantic at this point. You don’t need to find an exact parallel between every facet of the analogy and your situation for it to make sense.
Buddy, you’re here lecturing me that I’m a child and you don’t know the difference between an example and an analogy. Or worse it actually is an analogy because you believe that there is a “mom” in this situation and I should shut up and do what I’m told. You’re not angry at me for acting like a child. Quite the opposite, you’re angry at me for not acting like a child.
My vote is mine and you cannot have it for free. You want it? Work with Biden and get him to make material compromises with leftists and progressives. Anything else is you throwing a tantrum.
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Ok? I fail to see how what you pointed out in any way changes my response.
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