• zarkanian
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    9 months ago

    Sounds like Biden better quit alienating his base, then.

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      9 months ago

      If only this wasn’t a zero-sum game where 100% supporting his “base” didn’t alienate key swing-voters in key swing-states…

      But arethey really his base if they’re so far gone they’re okay with playing chicken with Trump…? One has to wonder…

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          9 months ago

          Just let me know when you have a solution for the:

          • 1/3 of independents who support Israel
          • 1/3 of independents undecided on Israel’s actions

          In addition to:

          • The ~7 million Jewish Americans who predominantly lean to supporting Israel in a time of rising antisemitism and how much Biden must toe the line with these groups.

          Biden is quite clearly trying to cater to all these very large impactful groups while throwing a bone to the fringe tankies. Among these groups, tankies are most certainly NOT the most impactful to the outcome of the election, but sure – he’ll take every vote he can get. But your efforts would be better made trying to convince swing-voters and Jewish Americans to stop supporting Israel.

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              9 months ago

              Nah, I was referring to this but I’ll yield that this newer poll shows promising shifts… Which is ultimately why we’re seeing a shift in Biden’s position against Israel accordingly.

              So as I said: your efforts would be better made trying to convince swing-voters and Jewish Americans to stop supporting Israel and you’ll see Biden continue to take a harder line. Yelling insults to liberals isn’t really doing much good, buddy.

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                9 months ago

                “Two thirds of Americans would probably support withdrawal of support to israel, but you should finish convincing the rest of America before expecting Biden to do anything about it”

                Lol nah I’ll keep calling obstinate libs silly names, you resplendent nincompoop

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                  9 months ago

                  How closely are you paying attention, because Biden has certainly shifted from what the polls were then, to now. As I’ve repeatedly demonstrated:

                  • Conditional aid is now being threatened and likely — this would’ve been INCONCEIVABLE for literally decades.
                  • Biden is publicly shaming Netanyahu — this would’ve been INCONCEIVABLE for literally decades.
                  • The USA is no longer vetoing and is not SUPPORTING a ceasefire at the UN — This was inconceivable merely weeks ago.

                  So yes, keep it up. Crying about Biden and those big bad liberals literally does nothing. Go after the people who are actually supporting Israel and — voila — as the polls continue to oppose Israel more, so too will Biden. It’s almost like that’s Democracy during an election year in action or something…

                  • archomrade [he/him]@midwest.social
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                    9 months ago

                    Crying about Biden and those big bad liberals literally does nothing.

                    Seems to me like my name calling is having some effect, you vivacious village idiot