• Deceptichum
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      7 months ago

      That’s only true if there is any consequences. So far nothing has actually come about.

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        He means it used to be pure political suicide for anyone in congress to say a word about not funding and defending Israel no matter what war criminal shit they got up to, and now we have a Palestinian congresswoman who says stuff like “from the river to the sea” and no AIPAC-funded candidate has primaried her yet.

        I’ll fully agree with you that it remains to be seen how much of that will turn into anything substantive the US decides to do to stop the killing, but the political landscape is definitely way way different than it used to be.

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    We’ll that’s interesting. She’s as mainstream as Democrats come. I was wondering a few days ago if Israel had had it’s Walter Cronkite moment with this strike. I guess I’ll be cautiously optimistic for a few days.

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    Did not expect this woman to be in the first 40. She was all in on calling Palestine protestors Chinese and Russian plants.

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      Pelosi is also a reasonably savvy politician. Even if you look at her as a soulless political monster, she probably sees that American support of Israel has been steadily falling and the Israeli attack on aid workers may be the last straw for a lot of Americans. Therefore, it is imperitive to lay down political cover for Biden to halt military aid transfers to Israel.

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    Lol these people were sleeping till now because it was just a bunch of brown people getting murdered en-mass. The moment some white folk died they care.

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      Not just sleeping.

      Pelosi herself accused protesters advocating for this exact thing of being “paid by Putin” back when it was “just” tens of thousands of Palestinian civilians and hundreds of Israel-critical journalists being murdered by the fascist apartheid regime…

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        And then she changed her mind and picked a more moral position. Would you rather the letter that Pelosi signed help end the US arms transfer to Israel or not?

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          I’m not complaining about her changing her mind, I’m complaining that she didn’t do so 30k+ dead civilians ago and pointing out that her reasons probably have nothing to do with morality or listening to the people.

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      True, however, when you’re asking for political change you don’t refuse the help of politicians switching sides. Especially senior ones, because they may be doing a trial balloon. And if the public refuses them they won’t see an upside to continuing that change. Instead they will retreat and focus on their base. So on the off chance this is a real attempt to shift policy we should be nicer to her for a minute. Show the mainstream democrats that we’re willing to vote for them if they meet us.

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    Are not all these weapon transfers laws that have already been voted on months and even years ago sometimes? Didn’t she probably vote for some of these?

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      The laws include stopping transfers to anyone who the president determines to be interfering with [US] humanitarian aid.

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      Not quite that simple - authorization was voted on long ago in some cases but it’s up to the executive branch how and when to actually send them. They’re usually approved in big blocks which go out over time on no required-by-law schedule.

      I think she probably voted for them back when being for Israel was a way to get votes, and now being for Israel is a way to lose votes, and now she’s alarmed and deeply concerned about the plight of the Palestinian people, all of a sudden. Whatever. If it leads to less support for Israel I’m at least happy that her insider trading ass is on the right side even if only very slightly and only by accident.

      I also 100% agree with whoever it was that said call your representatives and encourage them to get on board too.

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      After being called out on profiting off this genocide, she heroically attempted to repair optics around her

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        Exactly, she’s probably made a huge profit selling her defence contractor shares and now she wants Biden to stop, so the price tanks and she can buy them back again cheap, to sell at the next war

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      Almost, unfortunately:

      halt the the transfer of weapons to Israel until a full investigation into the airstrike was completed.

      They aren’t concerned with the thousands of children in the rubble, just the few white people that were killed.

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    I’ll wait and see if anything actually happens. When Bibi calls their bluff yet again by continuing the genocide with added aid worker deaths and embassy bombings, will he face any actual consequences?

    I’m guessing no. This is all theater. The status quo will be maintained at all costs.

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      Halt transfers until the investigation is completed.

      Israel’s own investigation, that is.

      And starting back up again doesn’t even depend on the outcome.

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        On Reuters they’re reporting the representatives also want an American investigation.

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    This one of those “I’m going against it solely because I know opposing it at this point won’t do anything.”

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Following the killing of seven World Central Kitchen workers by an Israeli strike while delivering food to Gaza earlier this week, House Democrats wrote a letter on Friday to U.S. President Joe Biden and Secretary of State Antony Blinken urging them to halt the the transfer of weapons to Israel until a full investigation into the airstrike was completed.

    The letter, spearheaded by Reps. Mark Pocan, Jim McGovern and Jan Schakowsky, was signed by 40 lawmakers including Nancy Pelosi and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

    “If this strike is found to have violated U.S. or international law, we urge you to continue withholding these transfers until those responsible are held accountable.

    In a statement to Rolling Stone, a spokesperson for Pelosi said she is “sympathetic to some of the thoughts in the letter, and she feels very strongly that there must be a comprehensive, independent investigation into the horrific killing of the World Central Kitchen heroes,” adding, “Speaker Pelosi knows President Biden’s support for Israel and empathy with the innocent civilians in Gaza, and she respects his judgment in how to proceed.”

    The letter also addressed reports that an estimated 32,000 people have been killed in Gaza since October 7, and that the Integrated Food Security Phase Classification initiative (IPC) recently warned that widespread famine is imminent and “expected to occur anytime between now and the next month if there is not an immediate cessation of hostilities.”

    We again strongly urge you to withhold any offensive weapons transfers until the investigation into the airstrike is concluded and, if it is found this strike violated U.S. or international law, those responsible are held accountable,” the lawmakers emphasized.


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    Biden will do anything that doesn’t stop the flow of money to the MIC. I guess taking the money and then NOT giving them weapons is a loophole.