This is what I want to see from every subreddit that is forcibly reopened. The admins can try and force mods to ‘do their jobs’, but they sure as shit can’t force what can be/gets posted!
I modded one that was like 20-25 active at any given time and even that was a pain in the butt, I can only imagine how much harder it gets as you increase the orders of magnitude.
Especially since it is super easy to both open a new community on Lemmy with yourself and your friends as mods and to also advertise it as the official new home to all users.
I mean makes sense they might be a little cautious about what they do, cause like if they get removed the people reddit replaces them with aren’t gonna let anything supporting the protests go through.
Well, right now they aren’t supporting the protests so what’s the difference? “Oh we don’t want new mods because they won’t protest, so we will stop protesting to avoid that!” the only difference is who gets to be called the mod.
I was talking more about the subreddits that are reopening but still doing stuff to effectively keep their subreddits not usable. They’re at least trying to toe the line so they can still do stuff like that where as if they just ignored what Reddit says they would just get replaced with mods that will go the complete opposite direction and stop any talking about protests.
Ah I didn’t know what they were doing, I assumed it was something similar to what r/pics is doing. Haven’t been back on Reddit since I uninstalled it the day before the blackout started.
I think they could if they wanted to, I know that some subs actually hide your posts with automod until they get released by the mod team so it stands to reason you could do that on one of the core subs. It wouldn’t be fun for the mods and would definitely cause a lot of frustration and issues with people all trying to be the first to post something but then they have to wait 8 hours for a mod to wake up and approve it.
This reminds me of the early days when you would goto steam.com only to realize that was not the correct website. I just checked and it seems like steam.com has been taken down but if I remember correctly it was some engineering company. I wonder if they are holding out for more cash from Gaben.
It’s funny, but I don’t quite get the point of this. If you are boycotting Reddit then you shouldn’t be going there to post about things. If you ARE going there, you are no longer boycotting. Reddit doesn’t care what you post about. You are still participating in the site. It’s just driving traffic back to Reddit, which harms the cause.
The point is the lurkers subscribed there are going to get bored of steam pictures and unsubscribe, if it happens to enough subs then a lot of the passive userbase will end up either spending less time or leave entirely. Since the vast majority of users are lurkers, it’ll outweigh the number of people creating these rebellion posts and Reddit should see a net loss in traffic. At least, that’s what I’ve gathered. Please don’t shoot the messenger if I’m wrong or it’s a stupid idea
I’ll add that I think another aspect to this is: if the site declines quietly, you’ll end up with users shrugging and either continuing to use it or not. Most people don’t understand why this matters at all, and if the post quality declines it probably will be a lot like Facebooks decline. People knew it got worse, but the prevailing narrative is “that’s just how social networks work, the kids are always jumping on the next thing”.
By doing this, it makes it very clear that the mods and power users are pissed by actions taken by Reddit. People are starting to hear about it, but it’s not common knowledge.
If people hear “Reddit users protested then left because of Reddit corporate”, investors are going to be pissed, advertisers are going to find it less attractive, and (most importantly) when discord or YouTube consider their own anti-poweruser moves (which they’re currently talking about) they’ll remember “we need to be careful with changes or we’ll have a reddit moment”
I think this all started with Musk and his instance that despite pissing off users left and right, he’s made Twitter more profitable than ever and only kicked off bots and scammers. It’s absurdly unlikely (not like he’s releasing numbers and they are deciding to not pay bills).
But by creating that very attractive narrative, other social media companies are looking for their own ways blatantly grab cash
I dunno, I think just remaining closed would have worked better. This will attract additional attention to Reddit. Also, the subreddit wasn’t ‘forced’ back open, the mods just caved under a bit of pressure from the admins (which we don’t even know is true. why on earth are they asking the steam subreddit to open back up when there are so many largers subs still private?). Smells like slacktivism to me, and mods who don’t want to lose their power. Meh.
They sent mail to every moderator of a closed subreddit I think. I wasn’t specifically targetted. I doubt reddit would really care if /r/piracy opened back up, but they got the threat mail
The community is posting about steam, the water vapor, in retaliation. It’s a beautiful thing.
This is what I want to see from every subreddit that is forcibly reopened. The admins can try and force mods to ‘do their jobs’, but they sure as shit can’t force what can be/gets posted!
The issue is some groups of mods are terribly afraid of no longer being mods - for whatever reason - so they don’t join these efforts.
I was a mod of a 3m subscriber sub…. I do NOT get why mods would give a shit about being removed. Shits really no fun.
I never moderated anything with 3M… I can only imagine the mod queue haha, but I did moderate one at 500K and I totally agree.
I modded one that was like 20-25 active at any given time and even that was a pain in the butt, I can only imagine how much harder it gets as you increase the orders of magnitude.
Especially since it is super easy to both open a new community on Lemmy with yourself and your friends as mods and to also advertise it as the official new home to all users.
I mean makes sense they might be a little cautious about what they do, cause like if they get removed the people reddit replaces them with aren’t gonna let anything supporting the protests go through.
Well, right now they aren’t supporting the protests so what’s the difference? “Oh we don’t want new mods because they won’t protest, so we will stop protesting to avoid that!” the only difference is who gets to be called the mod.
I was talking more about the subreddits that are reopening but still doing stuff to effectively keep their subreddits not usable. They’re at least trying to toe the line so they can still do stuff like that where as if they just ignored what Reddit says they would just get replaced with mods that will go the complete opposite direction and stop any talking about protests.
But that’s not really what /r/Steam is doing. The users started doing it by themselves, but the mods had simply accepted what Reddit demanded.
Ah I didn’t know what they were doing, I assumed it was something similar to what r/pics is doing. Haven’t been back on Reddit since I uninstalled it the day before the blackout started.
@kadu Some people like power more than anything. Being a subreddit moderator just gives them that adrenaline rush of control
Virgin making the sub about John Oliver vs the chad taking the name of the reddit too seriously
I just posted to the steam sub about how much I love steam turbines
I think they could if they wanted to, I know that some subs actually hide your posts with automod until they get released by the mod team so it stands to reason you could do that on one of the core subs. It wouldn’t be fun for the mods and would definitely cause a lot of frustration and issues with people all trying to be the first to post something but then they have to wait 8 hours for a mod to wake up and approve it.
I love malicious compliance.
This reminds me of the early days when you would goto steam.com only to realize that was not the correct website. I just checked and it seems like steam.com has been taken down but if I remember correctly it was some engineering company. I wonder if they are holding out for more cash from Gaben.
I remember that. It used to also say “this domain is not for sale” on the front page.
It’s funny, but I don’t quite get the point of this. If you are boycotting Reddit then you shouldn’t be going there to post about things. If you ARE going there, you are no longer boycotting. Reddit doesn’t care what you post about. You are still participating in the site. It’s just driving traffic back to Reddit, which harms the cause.
The point is the lurkers subscribed there are going to get bored of steam pictures and unsubscribe, if it happens to enough subs then a lot of the passive userbase will end up either spending less time or leave entirely. Since the vast majority of users are lurkers, it’ll outweigh the number of people creating these rebellion posts and Reddit should see a net loss in traffic. At least, that’s what I’ve gathered. Please don’t shoot the messenger if I’m wrong or it’s a stupid idea
I’ll add that I think another aspect to this is: if the site declines quietly, you’ll end up with users shrugging and either continuing to use it or not. Most people don’t understand why this matters at all, and if the post quality declines it probably will be a lot like Facebooks decline. People knew it got worse, but the prevailing narrative is “that’s just how social networks work, the kids are always jumping on the next thing”.
By doing this, it makes it very clear that the mods and power users are pissed by actions taken by Reddit. People are starting to hear about it, but it’s not common knowledge.
If people hear “Reddit users protested then left because of Reddit corporate”, investors are going to be pissed, advertisers are going to find it less attractive, and (most importantly) when discord or YouTube consider their own anti-poweruser moves (which they’re currently talking about) they’ll remember “we need to be careful with changes or we’ll have a reddit moment”
I think this all started with Musk and his instance that despite pissing off users left and right, he’s made Twitter more profitable than ever and only kicked off bots and scammers. It’s absurdly unlikely (not like he’s releasing numbers and they are deciding to not pay bills).
But by creating that very attractive narrative, other social media companies are looking for their own ways blatantly grab cash
I dunno, I think just remaining closed would have worked better. This will attract additional attention to Reddit. Also, the subreddit wasn’t ‘forced’ back open, the mods just caved under a bit of pressure from the admins (which we don’t even know is true. why on earth are they asking the steam subreddit to open back up when there are so many largers subs still private?). Smells like slacktivism to me, and mods who don’t want to lose their power. Meh.
They sent mail to every moderator of a closed subreddit I think. I wasn’t specifically targetted. I doubt reddit would really care if /r/piracy opened back up, but they got the threat mail
You’d think so, but didn’t the head mod get demodded?
Yup! https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/35555
None of my subs got a notice. Maybe it’s a only certain sub amounts?
will reddit care that much? posting pictures of steam is still pageviews and engagement, which is really all they care about
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