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    7 months ago

    Wtf is wrong with people who are pedos. There must be some chemical imbalance that we should be able to fix by the time kids are 10 and never become pedos. I mean it’s wishful thinking but damn it’s 2024!

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      It’s important to note that the attraction to kids, and actually diddling them, are technically separate things.

      No normal person has trouble not raping people of the opposite gender, no matter how wild their libido gets.

      So while research has essentially proven that the condition itself can’t be cured, it doesn’t automatically mean a person also wants to rape.

      It’s when those two things go wrong at the same time, that you get a monster.

      So basically, teach consent. If you don’t raise a rapist, they’re not gonna end up a child molester, even if they feel the attraction.

      Also “fixing it by the time someone is 10” is gonna be difficult. People tend to be attracted to people their own age, so what, is a 14-year-old a pedo if they do something with a classmate?

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        To add on to this, many people who do commit horrible acts against children aren’t pedophiles, in the sense that they are sexually attracted to children. Many of them are sexual sadists who are aroused by the act of inflicting pain and abuse, instead.

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        I’m going to respond to your last point. First, Jackie Chan wtf meme. Second, kids becoming sexually aware while they are the same age and want to experiment, fine whatever. My point was older people taking advantage of straight up kids between ages of months to 17 years old. That’s not a typo, i said months because there are straight up fuckin monsters out there. I wish there was something, say vaccine ( i know, controversial) or another form of medicine that could remove the urges or feelings that a potential pedo might have later in life before it’s too late. That’s why i said age 10, since i don’t think kids become aware of their body until they hit puberty.

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          So, like a no-attraction-towards-less-than-18-year-olds-allowed-vaccine that we just give everyone? That would work.

          You don’t need to be passive aggressive about mentioning months. I know. I can also tell you that unfortunately the condition isn’t chemical. People are born with it.

          My point is that you only get a molester when they have the condition, and also lack the control that all the rest of us have for not raping people. As such, removing the urges is only solving half the problem. You’d still be letting people who’d rape adults through the cracks.

          Dealing with those types of people would counter both pedos, and rapists in general.

          Consent training is the real solution, and is what actual “treatment” for pedos seeking help currently consists of, and in some cases just total libido suppression through medical means.

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            Is that something done in the US? I was always under the impression that it’s just prison. You can’t even talk to a therapist about it because they have a duty to report you so again, prison.

            But I can’t exactly claim to be an expert, it’s just what I’ve gathered from these conversations as they pop up over the years on reddit or whatever.

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              It varies by a lot. It doesn’t help that the research is scarce and seldom consulted on legislation.

              I think a lot of people afflicted just never tell anyone. As long as you’re otherwise stable and in control of yourself, anyone who has only that one thing wrong about them, could extremely easily take it to the grave. It’s by far the best option to live a decent life.

              If you don’t need someone else to stop you from acting on it, why tell anyone, ever? It can’t be cured, so the only “help” available is to teach you self-control, or like you say, in some places, prison. If you’re among the 99% of people who already have self-control figured out, why speak up and just complicate your life?

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        The sexual orientation argument is a landmine.

        Though it illustrates aspects of the point, it draws a lot of other uncomfortable parallels for people that really really aren’t part of it.

        And then you’ll spend twice as long dispelling the BS it makes people assume about the point you’re making.

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      I feel like this is a crime that really doesn’t get taken serious enough. There are so many studies showing that someone that was assaulted has a higher chance of continuing the cycle of assault when they are adults because it messes with their brain. There really is no seemingly help for a lot of these fucks, are our society is worse off with them.