So if you have a gas stove, you might not have enough electric for an electric oven wired to your kitchen. Nothing new here. But for new construction, should you have to pay for that wiring if you’re putting in gas?
100% yes. There’s no future for natural gas long-term, so any home being built without support for electrified kitchen appliances is doing a disservice to the consumer. It’s only a matter of time before the fossil gas death spiral starts and causes those prices to absolutely blow up. And frankly, given that electrical versions of modern appliances are universally better than their natural gas counterparts both in performance and lifecycle cost with perhaps with the exception of tankless water heaters or for people living in the near arctic, you’re screwing over the average consumer by failing to do the electric right when it’s relatively cheap to do it right during construction.
Even today in the still-relatively-early-days, electrification will save money for most homeowners. Building a new home that cannot be electrified just because the natural gas lobby wanted it that way is stupid. We have lots of building codes that are meant to keep houses future proof and that’s what this is.
If you aren’t forced to allow for future upgrades now you’ll want government funding to switch in ten years when the gas gets cut off. People have short memories about this sort of thing.
Code requires you install all kinds of outlets you may have no plan on using. Every 4’ on the walls, last I checked, just because a house without proper electrical supply is unusable.
You’re only whining about this oven outlet, though, so methinks you are not being entirely honest about your outrage.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-04-05/us-homes-face-costly-retrofits-for-induction-stoves-ev-chargers
Not quite sure why you’re cut-and-pasting a version of the link without the paywall-bypassing gift token.
because it didn’t work
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So if you have a gas stove, you might not have enough electric for an electric oven wired to your kitchen. Nothing new here. But for new construction, should you have to pay for that wiring if you’re putting in gas?
Yes, because you’re fairly likely to want to change out that gas stove — the homebuilders are bribed by the utilities to put them in.
100% yes. There’s no future for natural gas long-term, so any home being built without support for electrified kitchen appliances is doing a disservice to the consumer. It’s only a matter of time before the fossil gas death spiral starts and causes those prices to absolutely blow up. And frankly, given that electrical versions of modern appliances are universally better than their natural gas counterparts both in performance and lifecycle cost with perhaps with the exception of tankless water heaters or for people living in the near arctic, you’re screwing over the average consumer by failing to do the electric right when it’s relatively cheap to do it right during construction.
Even today in the still-relatively-early-days, electrification will save money for most homeowners. Building a new home that cannot be electrified just because the natural gas lobby wanted it that way is stupid. We have lots of building codes that are meant to keep houses future proof and that’s what this is.
tank water heaters can store energy thermally and can help dehumidify if you get the fancy new versions, so tankless isn’t always the right call
So if I am building myself a new house, I should be forced to install power for a stove in have no interest in using?
If you aren’t forced to allow for future upgrades now you’ll want government funding to switch in ten years when the gas gets cut off. People have short memories about this sort of thing.
If the government’s gonna force me to do something then, yeah, they should be the one paying for it
Code requires you install all kinds of outlets you may have no plan on using. Every 4’ on the walls, last I checked, just because a house without proper electrical supply is unusable.
You’re only whining about this oven outlet, though, so methinks you are not being entirely honest about your outrage.
I’m not outraged, more like annoyed at people trying to force others to go along with their decisions