• Dark_Blade@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    People need space to put stuff, and there’s only so much that can be put into a dinky-ass microcar’s boot. Not to mention, people travel in groups too.

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      1 year ago

      people travel in groups

      Guess what kind of transportation has much more space for groups than a car.

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        1 year ago

        ignore that all of this was about people with accessibility issues and focus merely on ‘groups’

        Do I need to specify that I’m talking about groups where at least one person has the kind of issues where ‘walk and use trains!’ isn’t a viable solution? Or should such people just not make groups or travel with young able-bodied people?

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          1 year ago

          That’s not what came across in your post. It reads like a blanket argument against public transport and other alternatives, microcars specifically.

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            1 year ago

            I’m not here to make blanket arguments against trains and microcars (Disclaimer: I do personally think microcars are stupid), I’m saying stuff from the perspective of a guy whose loved ones are blocked out of this perfect ‘utopia’ envisioned by the ‘fuck cars’ crowd that seems to think everything will be perfect for everyone if we just got rid of all cars. No, there are those of us who’ll be cut off from being able to live independently.

            I’m all for a healthier mix of transportation and I do think we need to start designing cities and living spaces that are vibrant and healthy for humans, not a sea of gray for quick-moving metal boxes. That said, cars are useful and we should find a way to accomodate them in ways that won’t exclude those of us who really do need them.

            And no microcars please.

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              1 year ago

              I’m all for a healthier mix of transportation

              That’s all this is about. I’ve said it elsewhere in this thread, but no one wants to eliminate cars completely from the face of the earth (well I’m sure someone does, but that’s not what’s being talked about). They should be a situational tool, not an everyday necessity for everyone. Just because some people need them doesn’t mean everyone should need them.

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            1 year ago

            Maybe for you, but making a grocery list and buying stuff in bulk is cheaper and, even for those who live within walking distance to a store, more convenient. It’s also more time-efficient.

            And, of course, this is just for groceries; people always shop for other stuff in bulk, during sales, etc.