• qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website
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    8 months ago

    As someone who paid off student debts as quickly as possible 10+ years ago…am I supposed to feel a great sense of unfairness? Because I don’t 🤷

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      I mean I do. I’m not gonna lie about it. It would be prettttty sweet if I could have the depressingly gross amount of money I dumped into paying off my loans. But I also have no problem whatsoever with this move. I’m all for it. This whole “things sucked for me so it must suck for you too” thing I’ve seen too much of recently is exhausting as hell.

      We can improve. It may not be super fair or feel great to those who already got screwed over by things in the past but that certainly doesn’t mean we can’t fix things so future people aren’t screwed in the same way.

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      8 months ago

      Same. I don’t feel unfairness when they help students. I feel unfairness when they give tax breaks to corps and billionaires.

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      8 months ago

      No! Any less suffering deprives the young of their birthright. We must ensure the heritage of adversity is preserved!

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    8 months ago

    For who, though?! I keep seeing articles about this latest round of student loan debt forgiveness, but so far I’ve seen nothing about who this round applies to. Who qualifies and how?

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      8 months ago

      People on the SAVE repayment plan qualify. Not sure if you have to take any action beyond that

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        8 months ago

        I’m on that already at least. I did see that it’s expected to take a while for it to apply since legal challenges are expected, so whoever it applies to I guess it’s mostly a waiting game for now.

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    8 months ago

    Do we need to do anything to receive the credit? Is it income based, and if so, is it retroactive? I’ve been a broke ass for most of my life, but I’m finally after an entire career’s worth of busting my ass making pretty good money. I’d be pretty bummed out if I didn’t receive assistance just because it took a long time to push this through.

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      8 months ago

      The press release makes it sound like you don’t need to take any action if you’re still enrolled in the SAVE plan. With other debt cancellations, they sent people letters saying that their debt is now discharged.

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          Sorry, but a bunch of right-wing judges prevented Biden from doing a blanket forgiveness of the sort which would likely have covered you.

          Just be happy that others don’t have to deal with the same issues you did.

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        8 months ago

        funny how democrats can never stop the republican atrocities.

        sounds like a crappy excuse, they had a blue wave going for them.

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          The Government of the United States of American is not a parliamentary system, where a party with a majority can do pretty much whatever the prime minister wants.

          Instead, the US government is designed to distribute power, with each house of congress, the President, and the Courts, each having significant power to block change. This is an example of that — actually getting the kind of change we need is going to mean sustained Democratic supermajorities for multiple election cycles.

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      Bidens done more than any other president combined by orders of magnitude. JFC what is wrong with people.

      This is a great thing. Take the W. Give credit where it’s due. If he has a Congress that functioned, he’d have made even more progress.

      Go vote.

      But quit whining and saying stupid shit like this.

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        Bidens done more than any other president combined by orders of magnitude. JFC what is wrong with people.

        How can you make this statement and not laugh at yourself? Support of your candidate is great but this comment is hysterically objectively unjustifiable. Like i won’t even ask you to defend it, its impossibly silly.

        Lay off the rhetoric my man and take a breath. fuck’s sake.

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        Bidens done more than any other president combined by orders of magnitude.

        hahahahahahahahhaha

        true W would be free education like every other developed country (and many undeveloped) in the planet, no debt traps.

        i dont get why people are so hellbent on defending a genocidal maniac because the alternative is a bit worse. just go and vote for the lesser evil if you will.

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          the alternative is a bit worse

          Because he’s not a “bit” worse.

          just go and vote for the lesser evil if you will.

          Sane people will , yes.

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            as long as you dont delude yourself with your genocide guy.

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    Ok, so if you want to know why leftover leftists like me are complaining bidens not doing enough to get reelected Even though he’s forgiven 153 billion in debt, i wanna talk just a bit about the ridiculous scale of student debt.

    Total student debt in the US is 1.77 Trillion dollars. 92% of that debt is federal student loan debt. Not private corps that’s would have to take a hit (that’s the 8%), federal loans. Now Biden has provided some access to loan relief (with means testing of course, a commenter here can’t even get the money but i digress) to the time of 153 billion usd all told. That might sound like a lot as those numbers are more than we can naturally conceive (anyway i can’t) but subtract 153 billion from 1.77 trillion and you get… 1.616 Trillion.

    That… objectively is not much.

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      I wonder what it is that you imagine has to happen to get the other 1.616 T cancelled.

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      He did try to wipe it all out but the Republicans stopped him. Just be happy he’s able to wipe a few billion here and there. Meanwhile Mr. 91 indictments only help those with money.

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      Its a fucking huge amount of forgiveness, and has been life changing for millions of Americans.

      But besides wiping debt outright, they also made tons of changes to the loan repayment system. How about doubling the minimum income before you have to pay anything on your loan from 16k to 32k? How about freezing any interest if you are paying on your loan? How about letting anyone delinquent true up instantly just by enrolling? How about letting spouses who are married but file separately maintain income based based payment even if the household income is to high? How about actually forgoving loans after the 10 years in the public service program, instead of “just not doing it” for 4 years like the trump admin did? How about forgiving 1k/yr of loans after 10 years even if you dont qualify for the public service forgiveness program? What about forgiving any undergrad loan after 20 years of payments, no matter the amount paid, that takes into account past payments?

      They have made paying back the loans much, much less painful for the people that haven’t had their loans outright forgiven, often dropping payment amounts by half and making everything about the process less brutal.

      That is indeed, “objectively much.”