Texas leads the charge

  • FfaerieOxide@kbin.social
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    8 months ago

    There is nothing in the definition that says illegal is a derogatory term.

    There very much is, even if we limit our definitions to the one which you gave me. I pointed as much out to you 23 hours ago.

    When I say illegal I’m referring to a person who has entered or resides in the US illegally.

    That isn’t what that word means except as a slur which your very precious dictionary even cops to.

    You still have not answered my inquest regarding how using an adjective as a noun to refer to a person could be anything other than dehumanizing as you still claim that it can potentially be.

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      8 months ago

      That isn’t what that word means except as a slur which your very precious dictionary even cops to.

      The definition clearly says sometimes which means you have to use context to determine if it is used as a slur. The term illegal by itself is not a slur.

      You still have not answered my inquest regarding how using an adjective as a noun to refer to a person could be anything other than dehumanizing as you still claim that it can potentially be.

      Illegal is a noun too, per the definition. Your question is invalid. I know you think you have some big gotcha bit you don’t. Some words have more than one meaning there are so many of those words that a word was created to describe words that are prounounced and often spelled the same way but have different meanings, that word is homonym.

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        8 months ago

        The definition clearly says sometimes which means you have to use context to determine if it is used as a slur.

        I asked you how it could not be and you have yet to offer an explination.

        Illegal is a noun too

        No it isn’t.

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          8 months ago

          I asked you how it could not be and you have yet to offer an explination.

          When referring to people who entered or reside illegally in the country.

          Merriam Webster’s, Cambridge, Collin’s, Oxford, dictionaries all defines it as a noun. I’ll take their word over yours.

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            8 months ago

            When referring to people who entered or reside illegally in the country.

            …you should probably refer to people, huh?

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              8 months ago

              People is not discriptive enough, citizens, permanent residents, migrants, and illegals all fall into the people category. Illegal is used to convey the immigration status of a person.

              Good for you finally letting go of the notion that illegal is only an adjective.

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                8 months ago

                Good for you finally letting go of the notion that illegal is only an adjective.

                as a non-slur which you still have not explained how it can be.

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                  8 months ago

                  Once again go back to the definition. Sometimes disparaging + offensive. Notice there’s no mention of illegal being a slur. Sometimes is used to describe how often something happens it’s between never and always. There are instances where illegal is used in a derogatory fashion and instances where it’s not. You have to use context to figure it out. Context is part of a statement that surrounds a word and determines the word’s meaning.

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                    8 months ago

                    Sometimes disparaging + offensive.

                    And since you have yet to explain how it can not be your claim that it is is unsubstantiated.

                    I am working under the assumption no one here—who purportedly all agree to “be excellent to each other”—is being intentionally despairing to their fellow human beings hense my continued confusion as to what “illegal” used (seemingly erroneously) as a noun means.