Texas leads the charge

  • jimbolauski@lemm.ee
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    8 months ago

    And since you have yet to explain how it can not be your claim that it is is unsubstantiated.

    What claim is unsubstantiated?

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      8 months ago

      What claim is unsubstantiated?

      That there can be a non-derogatory utilization of the adjective illegal to refer to a person with as though the word were a countable noun.

      All that has been done is to post a dictionary entry which agrees that when it is used as a noun it is a slur—behavior I would not expect from one who has endeavored excellence toward their fellows.

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        8 months ago

        All that has been done is to post a dictionary entry which agrees that when it is used as a noun it is a slur

        You are really having a tough time with the word sometimes. When illegal is used as a noun sometimes it is derogatory + offensive.

        Do you know what sometimes means?

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            8 months ago

            If there “were no times it is not”, the definition would not use the word sometimes .

            Do you know what sometimes means?

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              8 months ago

              Do you know what sometimes means?

              If I said, “The sun sometimes rises in the east.” that is a true statement, but not evidence that it ever does otherwise and if I wanted to claim “…and sometimes it rises in the west.” I would still need to provide evidence other than stressing the “sometimes” in my first statement.

              How can calling a person (and not actions) “illegal” be anything but derogatory?
              Explain your west-rising sun, please.

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                8 months ago

                What direction the sun rise is not binary, unlike if a statement is derogatory, the sun can rise in the east, north east, South east, North or south.

                If the claim that the sun sometimes rises in east is true than the claim that the sun always rises in the east is false and so is that the claim the sun never rises in the east.

                If the claim that illegal is sometimes derogatory is true then the the claim illegal is always derogatory or never derogatory is false.

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                  8 months ago

                  If the claim that illegal is sometimes derogatory is true then the the claim illegal is always derogatory or never derogatory is false.

                  No it isn’t. Nothing about “sometimes” being true itself proves the corollary “always” is false.

                  Besides, you would think you could end this by giving the example to refuse to proffer of a non-derogatory use.

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                    8 months ago

                    No it isn’t. Nothing about “sometimes” being true itself proves the corollary “always” is false.

                    You’re going to have to provide examples where sometimes means always.

                    https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/sometimes

                    on some occasions but not always or often:

                    on some occasions but not always or often illegal can be derogatory.

                    Besides, you would think you could end this by giving the example to refuse to proffer of a non-derogatory use.

                    There is no way you’ll be honest about the statement. You’ve all ready stated it’s a slur no matter how it’s used.