• guacupado@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    I mean, the people they’re irritating aren’t the ones that can do anything about it. All you’re doing is pissing everyone off. Go to your state’s capitol and fuck that place up instead.

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      8 months ago

      Pissing people off is irrelevant. You’re irrelevant. You will not be swayed. You have demonstrated that after 6 months of innocent deaths. Even if 100,000 children die. 1 million children die. You’re selfish and lazy.

      This is direct action, it’s about adding a financial cost to the government’s direction. They’ve decided supporting a genocide is more financially beneficial than pursuing justice. If we shut it all down, they’ll change their tune.

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          8 months ago

          Great idea, cause an internal riot precisely when tensions for a civil war are at the highest in decades. Surely that wouldn’t come to bite the status quo in the ass.

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            8 months ago

            Basically how I feel about it as well. I’d be right up there with you talking about direct action if we didn’t have a presidential candidate and millions of armed politically-charged suburbanites all but waiting for the spark to touch off the powder. Shit, every time we have something vaguely left-wing happen, I have to hear my own family talking about how “they all should be rounded up and dealt with”.

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          8 months ago

          You’re getting downvoted, but have an upvote. There is precedence for this, ie. Kent State massacre. I think that’s what you’re getting at.

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      I mean, it sucks to get inconvenienced by stuff like this. But the goal is to make nations hurt economically for supporting the Palestinian genocide.

      Most of the other options available would probably injure or kill innocent people. Like, you’re not gonna make a difference without some casualties. Better that casualty be an afternoon instead of your life.

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          No. I assume you’re talking about Hamas.

          I don’t support them, but they exist because Israel turned Gaza into a nursery for terrorist cells. I suspect they did it on purpose. They don’t give a shit how many civilians die as a result; they need terrorists cells so they can justify their genocide to the rest of the world.

          As far as I’m concerned every drop of blood Hamas spills is on Netanyahu’s hands.

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      8 months ago

      Interrupting labor is the most peaceful way to threaten the capitalist class. If you object to this, you advocate for more extreme measures. Be careful what you wish for.

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        This argument completely ignores the impact this has on regular people. People who end up late to pick up their kids from daycare and end up owing extra money when they can barely make ends meet as it is. Yeah, this may have some marginal impact on the capitalist class, but it will be far more painful for the employees who WILL be held accountable for being late to work and may easily end up fired, and certainly will not be paid for the time they miss. Let alone the life safety issues this type of demonstration creates. This is holding your peers ransom because of something you want and you take away their autonomy to decide whether or not to take part. If you can’t convince people to join your cause willingly, maybe your cause isn’t as good as you think it is.

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      If you want the inconvenient protests to stop, fucking join them so that the change happens quicker.

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        8 months ago

        Right… because antagonizing and harming people is such a great way to convince them to help you.

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      8 months ago

      Nah, it’s random people who are at fault. How dare they have jobs or other things to do

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        Those people aren’t at fault in any meaningful sense no. But collectively their labor keeps everything running. To interrupt labor is to interrupt the means with which the capitalist class commit their atrocities.

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      Yes I agree. A coordinated approach at all state capitals and Washington, DC would probably have more impact. This is where the people who care about reelected live and work.

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      Sure we can do something about it. We can vote against anyone who supports the genocide.

      The state level goverment doesn’t have as much impact on foreign policy as federal does.

      Legislatures are persuaded by polls and bribes, not by reason or empathy.