“Now listen, you rich people, weep and wail because of the misery that is coming on you. Your wealth has rotted, and moths have eaten your clothes. Your gold and silver are corroded. Their corrosion will testify against you and eat your flesh like fire. You have hoarded wealth in the last days. Look! The wages you failed to pay the workers who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord Almighty. You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves in the day of slaughter. You have condemned and murdered the innocent one, who was not opposing you.”
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=James 5%3A1-6&version=NIV
Who pissed in your Cheerios?
And that does not describe US Christianity. Most of the regressives haven’t ever read the bible.
It hasn’t described “Christianity Inc.” since the time of Constantine. You’d think leftists would have a problem with that… but all I’ve seen the left do is encourage it.
Talking about shooting yourself in the foot.
No. But their mothers have.
The idea that “the left” has any influence on mainstream American Christianity is completely divorced from reality.
I never said it did. Maybe you should ask yourself why the left has completely surrendered religion to the right - you know… considering that religion happens to be important to a large part of the working class and all.
Nothing was surrendered. The right fought for decades to get it. Go back a century and a huge chunk of pastors either describe themselves as socialist or lean towards it. The first attempts at the Prosperity Gospel were laughed off as being obviously self serving. It wasn’t until the 70s that they found a formula that worked.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyHd6wEC4IE
Never been too keen on BtB - the “Great Man” fallacy cuts both ways. Maybe I’ll give it a try.
I despise the “prosperity” grifters as much as anyone - but let’s not pretend that establishment religion was any kind of left before they arrived on the scene. The Catholic church was literally the face of right-wing ideology for centuries (and still has the hidden gold reserves to prove it), and WASP ideology is still one of the driving forces behind white supremacism to this day.
I know what you’re trying to say - this is the part where establishment Christianity went explicitly capitalist - but the fact that establishment Christianity was perfectly servile to the status quo before made this inevitable no matter how many people laughed it off initially.
Yes, this is a huge problem in modern day society. You’re good point could do without all of the name calling.
People here do agree with you that Jesus’s teachings have laid out some anticapitalist seeds (see supply side Jesus to see a parody of capitalism Jesus) but with your angry debate style it took me several of your posts to get your point.
Oh, I’d say that the new testament does a bit more than that.
I take it you’ve never dealt with too many fundamentalist atheists?
Calling all of a group irrational is not how to deal with some of the group. Your mannerisms is a problem. If someone else is giving you an issue, report it. Don’t become the problem for the sake of an internet debate where almost no one changes their opinions.
You mean… like atheists do?
That’s not the point of internet debate.
Don’t be naive.