For at least ten years, the Chinese Communist Party has been abducting its overseas citizens on EU territory and forcibly returning them to China - violating the rule of law and public security in Europe - a new report finds.
  • 420blazeit69 [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    44·
    8 months ago

    Where are you getting this nonsense from?

    The law. Yes, abduction and kidnapping are only possible when they are done illegally. Illegality is a crucial part of what those terms mean.

    You’re essentially making the libertarian “tax is theft” argument: it would be criminal if I did it to you, so it must be criminal when the government does it to you.

    • booty [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      33·
      8 months ago

      Illegality is a crucial part of what those terms mean.

      No dude, it isn’t. At all. You literally have it backwards. The law uses these terms because they are English terms with meanings. The law doesn’t give them their meanings.

        • booty [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
          33·
          8 months ago

          There is no legal way to kidnap someone.

          There are a wide variety of legal ways to kidnap someone. Such as the one I described which happened to me.

          • 420blazeit69 [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
            12·
            8 months ago

            How is this logic different from the article’s? You’re both calling a legal arrest you don’t like “kidnapping.”

            See also: a libertarian saying “of course you can legally steal, it’s called taxes!”

            • booty [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
              32·
              8 months ago

              Why are you bootlicking? The US government doesn’t define common English words and their usage, and it’s very weird that you seem to think that the fact that they have control over the land means that they are incapable of committing violence against people. What the government goons I am describing did to me were acts of state-sanctioned violence in which I was taken under threat of physical harm to a location I did not want to go to and held against my will despite having done absolutely nothing to deserve violence being inflicted upon me. People with fucking souls call that abduction/kidnapping, where is your soul?

                • booty [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
                  32·
                  8 months ago

                  Consistency is when you can’t call an act of violence what it is if it’s cops committing the act of violence

                  • 420blazeit69 [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
                    22·
                    8 months ago

                    Are you an anarchist? I’m not. Like every AES state, I think it’s possible to have justifiable government actions. Governments have a monopoly on the legitimate use of violence, so yeah, a cop making a legal arrest is not the same as me hitting a stranger over the head and stuffing them in a van.