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    Ah so now you’re just going on a tangent in a desperate attempt to drive the conversation away from where you’ve been established to be wrong according to an ocean of credible researchers on the subject.

    Many people are diagnosed with “ADHD” too idiot, it’s just a sleep disruption disorder.

    Oh my God this cannot be real. Now you can find a thousand papers with a sample size you’ll like which very much establish your view as idiotic. But let me guess, the scientists are wrong and you’re right despite not being a medical researcher or even a medical professional at all? What authority do you think you have on this?

    The fact is that the burden of proof is on you considering you’re arguing against established psychology/neuroscience research in the field that has had qualified researchers agreeing to the existence of. You can not just pull “science is wrong” out of your ass.

    You are a bad liar. You have no evidence to your claims and the entire argument you make is “just trust me bro, even if the scientific community disagrees with me and I can’t find a source for my incorrect claims I still totally am right”.

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        There is no way you’re actually being real at this point. Do you have any qualifications in medical research (if so state the qualifications), and have you ever written a paper studying neuroscience or even had higher education on the matter? Do you think you are more credible on the matter than ADHD&Autism experts and specialists in mental imagery? Don’t flood your comment with other bullshit noise, just answer those two questions.

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            You don’t have any of those things either

            But clearly the many, many researchers on the subject do and they pretty much all blatantly accept that aphantasia is very real. This is the consensus between pretty much all of the modern research on the subject.

            you just blindly trust in whatever is coming out of psychology journals.

            Brother I have linked you multiple studies, one with a sample size in the thousands.

            That’s the opposite of what someone performing a critical meta-analysis of “aphantasia” or “adhd” or autism studies would do.

            I linked multiple meta-analyses and the researchers all have multiple papers where they affirm the existence of aphantasia. Neither of us are qualified to say the scientific community is wrong on science.

            You’re clearly not a very logical person,

            I am the only one with real data. You are just saying “that data isn’t good enough!” while having no data of your own.

            ADHD has also been pretty thoroughly debunked

            Lmao complete bullshit. “It’s been debunked!!!” yet you can provide zero actual evidence. Here’s an analysis of ADHD research, another one, here’s one on the effectiveness of treating ADHD, here’s another one. Tell a neuroscience researcher “ADHD doesn’t exist” and you’ll be laughed at, much of the data is extremely high quality with large sample sizes (there’s even research with tens of thousands of participants).

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                “I have evidence that ADHD doesn’t exist, it’s been debunked.”

                Proceeds to have no evidence that ADHD doesn’t exist, while staring at the thousands of available studies on the matter that establish that it does exist

                You are a joke. You have no evidence at all despite claiming you do. You also have no evidence that ADHD and aphantasia are caused by having unhealthy habits, so you’re going against your own logic here by claiming that like it’s fact. The burden of proof is on you buddy, ADHD is considered real science by almost all credible researchers and has considerable evidence saying it exists. Where’s your evidence it doesn’t exist? Where is your meta-analysis that says these are wrong or poor?

                All you do in this thread is pretend you have anything substantial backing your claims, and then just evade when you’re confronted and told to provide this “evidence”. I have provided many sources from world-renown experts on the field, I’m done with your “well scientific research isn’t real so I’ll ignore it” bs.

                Prove that aphantasia and ADHD are caused by an unhealthy lifestyle rather than ADHD tending to cause an unhealthy lifestyle, and then we’ll talk. I don’t even know where you got “ADHD is a sleep disorder” from because, while comorbidities of sleep onset insomnia and other forms of insomnia are common in ADHD (just as they are in other disorders), a large chunk of people with ADHD don’t experience abnormal sleep.

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                    Yeah what you said is what people say when they get caught in their bullshit. “The evidence is totally out there bro you can totally find it”.

                    You have no proof about your fringe claims about ADHD and aphantasia, and what apparently causes them. You cannot prove anything so now you’re cowering behind “it’s totally real” when you have nothing. You haven’t even stated a single source, despite claiming you have so many sources.

                    Where is your research? Where is your source? You’re an internet loser talking out of his ass trying to discredit the entirety of modern neurology research.

                    People with ADHD see an improvement in their life when incorporating excercise and healthier eating, as all people do, and they generally reduce stress caused by symptoms, but there are plenty of healthy people and MANY athletes who have ADHD (and aphantasia) as well and who still are often treated for it too, before, during, and after their careers. According to the MLB’s published data surrounding mental disorders in the sport, the rate of ADHD in professional athletes is likely to be even higher than in the general population. The BJSM has similar findings on athletes, the research being by many psychiatry & medical experts.