For the past days I’ve noticed that posts/comments I make on my lemmy.world account are not (or rather very slowly, if ever) federated to the source instance of the community and post/comments that are on the source are not (or rather very slowly, if ever) federated to the local copy on lemmy.world.
The result is again (as it was before 0.18.1) that lemmy.world users are living in a bubble in which they see each othery posts/comments but nobody else does.
Is this a known issues and is this going to be addressed?
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Do you have some examples we can look into?
No federation from source to
lemmy.world- local copy on
lemmy.world: https://lemmy.world/post/2219417 - original source: https://lemmy.wtf/post/193323
No federation from
lemmy.worldto source- local copy on
lemmy.world: https://lemmy.world/comment/1749875 - original source: https://lemmy.wtf/comment/761591
Note that I pulled my post to the source instance by searching for it from there, but updates/edits are still not federated. This post also has a reply from a
lemmy.zipuser which hasn’t been federated tolemmy.worldyet.Ah. The comments are made by Beehaw users, and Beehaw has de federated from us.
So the post from .wtf will arrive here but the Beehaw comments won’t
I thought
beehaw.orgdefederating from us would not affect post/comments on shared source instances, e. g.lemmy.wtf, which is neither defederated frombeehaw.orgnor us:https://lemmy.world/post/149743
Why do I see posts/comments from beehaw users on communities outside lemmy.world and beehaw.org?
That’s because the “true” version of those posts is outside beehaw. So we get updates from those posts. And lemmy.world didn’t defederate beehaw, so posts/comments from beehaw users can still come to versions hosted on lemmy.world.
https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/src/branch/main/fep/1b12/fep-1b12.md#the-announce-activity
After the group successfully verifies and wraps the received activity, it sends it to the inboxes of its followers. Followers then use the outer
Announceactivity to verify that the content was really approved by the group. After this step theAnnouncecan be discarded and only the inner activity shown to users.
Cloudflare Challenge?
Since
lemmy.worldis now behind Cloudflare, is it possible that federation is hit by Cloudflare Challenges as described here?
- local copy on
I’m not the OP, but I have an example from two days ago posting to a community hosted on feddit.uk:
My comment is https://lemmy.world/comment/1718032, which is present for lemmy.world, but not for feddit.uk
I haven’t posted any comments since, so I don’t know if it’s a one-off thing.
Beehaw’s defederation of lemmy.world doesn’t seem to be involved in this one.
I have noticed comments made in a community here on lemmy.world not appearing over on feddit.uk too.
https://lemmy.world/post/1995177
But they do show over at lemm.ee
Maybe more of a feddit.uk issue?
My example did not make it to lemm.ee either, so it would not have been exclusively a feddit.uk issue.
I would be really handy for finding out what’s going wrong if there were some way to track the history of a posting as it propagates across instances, but I’d imagine that would be quite tricky to do. On the other hand, perhaps these cases simply correlate with downtime either at the origin or at the receiving instance?
It’s not a defederation issue (this time) as the examples have shown which leaves me no choice but to finally leave.
lemmy.worldis just too big for its own good. Good Bye! and Good Luck!P. S.: @[email protected] Is it possible to lock an account instead of deleting it so that posts/comments stay?
Lock this account here, I mean.
I think I could ban your account without deleting content, but maybe that’s not what you want?
No, I meant lock as in disable login, remove email address, 2FA and freeze all content. This feature might not yet exist in lemmy but it probably should be implemented. Apart from a user leaving this might actually be required to properly handle a user passing away.
I agree that should be added. But I meant for now, permanent ban without deleting content is the closest to that. Other than that, the only option is to delete your account which should delete the posts too. (But even that doesn’t always work…)
OK, then I just wait and stop using this account until such feature gets implemented. Deletion is not an option as it would also delete all posts/comments. At least local ones, maybe even posts/comments on other instances. Dunno, if the User/Delete Activity is propagated to other instances (yet).
Bye and Thanks for all your hard work!
Interesting
