• loopedcandle@lemmynsfw.com
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    6 months ago

    Ok listen, I’m all in favor of Israel knocking it the f*ck off and students protesting, but this article is written with a very specific skew.

    Last week, Columbia University summoned an army of heavily armed, riot gear-clad police officers to attack its own students for peacefully protesting Israel’s war on Gaza and the university’s financial ties to Israel.

    Couple of notes here.

    • It has evolved to a non peaceful protest. Some neo-nazi assholes were physically engaging with Jewish students. That’s not cool.
    • A good number of nom-students showed up and we’re the ones causing the problems.
    • Columbia called the local police to disperse a situation that was getting unsafe fast, because a university isn’t really qualified to do that. Which is the right call IMO. It’s the NYPD that choose riot gear.

    Should it have been handled differently? Yes. Was the school dumb? Yes. We really don’t need this slanted BS news to see that.

    This is some of the quotes from a Newsweek article:

    One video posted on X, formerly Twitter, showed a masked protester outside the university’s gates appearing to chant: “Go back to Poland!”

    Another video showed a man telling Jewish students outside the campus gates that “the 7th of October is going to be every day for you.”

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        6 months ago

        I live nearby, I walked by.

        I think (I don’t know for sure) that the students were peaceful, it looks like it got co-opted by a few loud neo-nazis who were being assholes.

        My thing is the original article was pretty off.

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          6 months ago

          Then maybe arrest the Nazis instead of beating the actual protesters and shutting down the protest? Interesting that the absolute thinnest veil of an excuse is enough for you to be ok with police brutalizing innocent people who just happen to be exercising their right to protest.

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            6 months ago

            Ok I. The interest of an honest conversation these are my thoughts:

            • I haven’t seen any reports of beatings during the arrests. Can you send me something if you saw that? Were there brutalizations taking place? If so, you’re absolutely right.
            • I have no problem with the protest, but I do think there is a line between protest and vandalism/rioting. I went to the NYC MeToo marches and a protest in DC against the US in Iraq when I was younger, causing material damage is just not what you do. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/live-blog/campus-protests-live-updates-students-occupy-columbia-university-rcna149926
            • Looking at the pictures of the baracades and furniture, doesn’t Columbia have an obligation to disperse a situation that is becoming dangerous? Isn’t that one of the police’s jobs?
            • I haven’t been in a situation like that, but I’m pretty sure the police officer in that situation can’t tell the difference between a Nazi and not a Nazi. And they might not self identify. I’m guessing things are getting heated. I read somewhere (sorry I don’t have a source on this either) that the students were let off with a misdemeanor of trespassing, and the identified external agitators were charged with more. Then the students freely went back to protesting. I’m going to reiterate, b.c. this is the internet, I would be protesting Israel too if I were a bit younger. My issue is with the way the story was reported.
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      6 months ago

      Columbia called the local police to disperse a situation that was getting unsafe fast

      Got it, so they called in backup for the neo-nazi assholes.