Nadav Popplewell, 51, abducted from Nirim kibbutz on 7 October, was reportedly wounded in Israeli airstrike more than a month ago
Archived version: https://archive.ph/UqX5p
Eh, does anyone have figures on how many of the hostages are/were kibbutzim?
About half of the remaining ~130 are presumed dead, but only 36 are confirmed by Israel or Hamas.
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Israeli civilians are also just civilians.
he died from israel air strike 🤷🏻♂️
Yes, but is that his fault? It’s disingenuous to disregard that Hamas was the ones that actually kidnapped him in the first place and from what I can recall most hostages are/were treated quite poorly. The article also mentioned that there is signs of physical abuse on him. In general, people that take people hostage aren’t quite nice people. (And no I’m not talking about the Palestinian civilians)
And because I know this crowd: Does this in any way excuse the thousands of Palestinian civilian deaths? No, of fucking course not.
He is still a civilian and his death is as tragic as any other civilian death. He is still a fucking human that did absolutely nothing wrong, just like the Palestinian civilians.
It’s almost impossible to discuss this war with people (and especially on Lemmy) You really have to add disclaimers and shit everywhere, otherwise you are either a Nazi for hating Jews or you eat Palestinian children for breakfast. Like this:
- X did this bad thing.
- But Y did this bad thing! Fuck you Nazi!
- Yes Y also did a bad thing, but we are talking about what X did now. Everyone knows Y did a bad thing so there is no need to bring it up every single second.
not saying it his fault., why would it be his fault?
Just saying that his life matters regardless of his nationality. You and the other user seemed to think that Israeli civilians are somehow worth less.
Your reply and usage of the shrugging emoji seemed to imply that this death was his fault or that it didn’t matter just because an Israeli airstrike was involved.
show me where i say it his fault. show me where i say it didn’t matter?
You implied that here:
he died from israel air strike 🤷🏻♂️
I assume you know how to read and what that emoji means so I won’t have to explain it to you.
let me tell you what i implied, he wouldn’t have died if israel wasn’t a genocidal maniac. there you go.
Okay, and how is that relevant? Is it his fault or something?
I really don’t get why you think it’s relevant at all when we are talking about a civilian’s death.
Some idiot said “who cares” about his death because apparently Israeli civilians don’t deserve to live or something I dunno. I said that the victim was still a civilian.
And you essentially just shrugged. The only way I can interpret that is that you think Israeli civilian lives don’t matter.
Please just fuck off, people like you just make everyone else believe that supporters of Palestine are bad people (or as they put it “Nazis”) and that they think that Israel should be cleansed. I’m not saying you think that but you have a special ability to be a fucking idiot and say shit that some would possibly attribute to “Nazis”.
TLDR: Just fuck off.
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It’s not realistic to mention every single thing about the war in every single article.
I also don’t like the situation but acting like that when innocent people die regardless of the victims country of origin, is just pathetic.
You don’t even have to act sad, all you had to do was not being an asshole.
