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    7 months ago

    The NRA has a deep hold of Republicans and primaries anyone who goes against them. Same with AIPAC and Democrats. The corruption runs deep.

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        Their entire raison d’etre is bribing American politicians to always favor a foreign country, though. That’s textbook foreign interference.

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      While that’s true, only one of these two groups is essentially foreign interference.

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        The NRA laundered millions from Russia in the leadup to 2016.

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        Nope, both are. AIPAC coordinates with the Israeli government and its sole purpose is making sure that the US keeps sending billions in aid and weapons no matter how many crimes against humanity are committed using those same weapons.

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          Yes I was talking about APAIC. The NRA is fully homegrown.

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              Wow $2,500! That’s like a percentage of the… Let me check my notes here… $256,000,000 in revenue. Really significant. Totally relevant foreign interference.

              Yeah fuck trying to wash away American fascism as some sort of foreign interference. It is fully homegrown. It would still exist if American society was surrounded by vacuum.

              On the other hand, APAIC exists solely to support a foreign state. And laws were changed specifically to allow them to do that.

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                First of all, the 2500 was just what they’d initially admit to. If you read on just a tiny bit, you’ll see this:

                The NRA later said that it had received more money from two Russian nationals previously disclosed, including Alexander Torshin, a Russian banker, with links to the Kremlin.

                At the time, Torshin was under an FBI investigation into whether any Russian money was funneled through the NRA to help Donald Trump in the 2016 election.

                Second of all, I’m not trying to whitewash American fascism. That they’re cooperating with Russian fascists makes them WORSE and also more hypocritical for all their bigotry that they call patriotism.

                It would still exist if American society was surrounded by vacuum.

                Not true. If American society was surrounded by a vacuum, everyone would suffocate, including the fascists.

                APAIC exists solely to support a foreign state. And laws were changed specifically to allow them to do that.

                No argument there.

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                My brother in leftism, it can be both. They can be homegrown fascists that are in bed with Putin.

                If you seriously don’t think the NRA is a Russian proxy, you have not been paying attention at all.

                A dozen senators don’t fly to Moscow on the 4th of July to courier a handwritten letter to Putin just for fun.

                Russians hacked both Dems and Repubs and yet only released the Dem files.

                Along with the literal thousands of other blatant links between them.