Debates are only cool when they aren’t meant to divide and create conflict-
Do you know what debates are? What they are for? How they operate? A debate is always two opposing ideas, they are literally designed to divide and revolve around conflict. If you only like debates that unite and cause harmony then you don’t actually like debates, you like discussions.
I clearly said I didn’t see this specific topic appropriate because of the sexist (and sometimes political) nature of it.
A) Yes it’s a debate about sexism and rape culture, of course it’s going to involve sexism.
B) Everything is politics. People who complain about things “getting too political” just don’t like the politics on display.
We are literally in a meme community revolving around an allegory for the Vietnam war where the good guys are analogous to the Vietcong. If you think Star Wars is not a place for politics then you don’t understand Star Wars.
It still shows up for me, I’ll post it below for reference.
The meme is about a controversial topic which has lead to numerous debates lately where “both sides” are extremely sexist to the other. I made an statement, it wasn’t subject of debate (unlike the meme).
there is no rule that the memes can’t be attached to debates
Never said that, I actually enjoy a lot of debates born from memes, so that’s not the problem. I clearly said I didn’t see this specific topic appropriate because of the sexist (and sometimes political) nature of it. Debates are only cool when they aren’t meant to divide and create conflict-
Were you guys outspoken then?
-which you seem to try to encourage. Nice try, but I’m not changing my mind here, this post doesn’t seem appropriate to me in the slightest. People here expect “haHa [insert funny akward quote]”, not “let’s compare ewoks to fucking rapists”.
Someone posed a very ill-formed question that results in no winners. “Would you rather find yourself in the woods with a bear or a man?”
The argument is almost designed to make men feel discriminated against and women feel like men don’t listen to them. There’s just enough room for everyone to bring in their own assumptions about the situation to justify their position, so everyone else feels defensive.
That’s why I said the post didn’t feel appropriate to me, dragging this topic only makes it worse for everyone (even the poor ewoks), then some people started to misinterpret (some in clear bad faith) my statement and bring more hate 🙃
I’m tired of the internet, even asking for peace brings controversy nowadays…
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Do you know what debates are? What they are for? How they operate? A debate is always two opposing ideas, they are literally designed to divide and revolve around conflict. If you only like debates that unite and cause harmony then you don’t actually like debates, you like discussions.
A) Yes it’s a debate about sexism and rape culture, of course it’s going to involve sexism.
B) Everything is politics. People who complain about things “getting too political” just don’t like the politics on display.
We are literally in a meme community revolving around an allegory for the Vietnam war where the good guys are analogous to the Vietcong. If you think Star Wars is not a place for politics then you don’t understand Star Wars.
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It still shows up for me, I’ll post it below for reference.
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It’s the Principal Skinner meme response.
“Could I be wrong about the way men behave in society that makes women feel so uncomfortable? No, it’s the women who are wrong.”
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Why do you get to decide what I want to see in this community?
What did I miss?
Someone posed a very ill-formed question that results in no winners. “Would you rather find yourself in the woods with a bear or a man?”
The argument is almost designed to make men feel discriminated against and women feel like men don’t listen to them. There’s just enough room for everyone to bring in their own assumptions about the situation to justify their position, so everyone else feels defensive.
The only winner is the bear.
No the friendly apex predator of the woods is painted in a very bad light in a lot of these arguments. So no winners really
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The bear will eat quite well.
Not from eating people, bears don’t like people.
The bear is eating leftover popcorn from all the people watching the shitshow from the sidelines.
It’s becoming a problem, the bears are getting too fat for winter
That’s why I said the post didn’t feel appropriate to me, dragging this topic only makes it worse for everyone (even the poor ewoks), then some people started to misinterpret (some in clear bad faith) my statement and bring more hate 🙃
I’m tired of the internet, even asking for peace brings controversy nowadays…
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I don’t get the context but it sounds like you are taking this personally.
That’s the neat part, it doesn’t matter what you say, 90% of the users on Lemmy are taking it personally.
Fair enough
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😂🤣
Serious comedy genius.