It is strange and striking that climate change activists have not committed any acts of terrorism. After all, terrorism is for the individual by far the modern world’s most effective form of political action, and climate change is an issue about which people feel just as strongly as about, say, animal rights. This is especially noticeable when you bear in mind the ease of things like blowing up petrol stations, or vandalising SUVs. In cities, SUVs are loathed by everyone except the people who drive them; and in a city the size of London, a few dozen people could in a short space of time make the ownership of these cars effectively impossible, just by running keys down the side of them, at a cost to the owner of several thousand pounds a time. Say fifty people vandalising four cars each every night for a month: six thousand trashed SUVs in a month and the Chelsea tractors would soon be disappearing from our streets. So why don’t these things happen?
Because the law drops the hammer on them BIG time.
Hell, activists use to spike old wood trees marked for clear cutting back in the day. This would cause the saw blades foresters would use to explode in their face, in fact George Alexander, a millworker, was severely injured when a saw blade shattered after contact with a tree spike and cut his jaw in half.
No, it’s more that people who care about climate change are good at long term thinking. There are no cuddly animals to rescue right now, so people who want instant gratification do other things.
People who are good at long term thinking commit fewer types of impulse crimes. Vandalism is an unintelligent way to get your point across. There’s nothing inherently wrong with the paint job on the SUV.
I’ve seen ICE folks run cyclists off of roads. I don’t think I’ve ever seen an EV or cyclist attack a shitwagon.
I dunno man, how ever you measure it I think the ice folks are more aggressive by nature, these are the same coal rolling fucks who like to pollute intentionally as a ‘fuck you’ to environmentalists.
Maybe environmental movements don’t attract the types of people who do this stuff or maybe it’s not personal it’s impersonal? Big difference between being told in your childhood house of worship that you are going to happy sky place if you die for skydaddy or seeing your uncle dragged off in the night vs. seeing a PowerPoint about climate change. Or maybe it’s just a number game. Environmental groups just don’t have enough people to get them in the pool.
No it’s not. You can’t park your car on the sidewalk unless explicitly allowed by a sign. If you park on the sidewalk you have to pay a fine, if your car is blocking something you also get a Punkt in Flensburg.
Calm down. I didn’t say it’s not what’s happening. Yes it is happening, especially in bigger citys. Yes it is incredibly annoying. But that doesn’t mean it’s legal. Have you tried to do anything about it?
In what world is a tow truck going to tow a car for parking on the side walk? They’re gonna tell you to call the cops or parking enforcement and the cops don’t even show up for gun shots
Can’t say I agree. For example, if someone hits you with their car? It’s ok to scratch it.
Edit: The downvotes on this are fucking unreal, imagine being upset that the person you just mowed over scratched your car. Fuck right off with that bullshit.
You know, I agree. But also, you can’t imagine how much I want to scratch the cars that just park illegally in my neighborhood. They park on the curves and crossings and in such small distances that I literally cannot pass through with my stroller without scratching them. So I end up going around the block(s) further and further away just to pass through some gap of illegally parked cars that’s just big enough if I am very careful. But then I end up thinking, wtf. Why do I have to be careful to not scratch their wrongfully parked cars, a private property that they left outside on a place designed and protected by law to be solely for pedestrians, with my private property that should be able to walk this road? And also, why do I not get the same protection if I want to park my bike or stroller outside? Because no one cares if my private property is damaged when it is left outside. If I scratch my stroller on an illegally parked car when I cross the road at the place I am supposed to be crossing somehow I am the one who has to pay damages.
Even then, in a “lorry problem” type of scenario, it could be OK.
Like, you have a lever and there’s a fascist con-man polluting the world with bad ideas and products, and you could either do nothing or use the lever to go to town on one of those products to send a message to his supporters, I know what I would do
But what if the person on the other side was parked over the line and I had to leave space to get out and then they left and now I look like I parked like an asshole and then some asshole uses that as an excuse to ding my car.
I am on your side about this. I can’t stand the people who need their car to be in perfect appearance and do asshole things to get it that way.
It’s a fucking machine that you use to move goods and people from a to b. Not a statement, not a status symbol, not a penis enhancement. Scratches are just battle scars. My civic looks like shit and I don’t care.
Scratching a stranger’s car is never okay.
But what if it ain’t a car but a Cybertruck?
Scratching another unmet civilians vehicular mode of transport is never okay.
Because the law drops the hammer on them BIG time.
Hell, activists use to spike old wood trees marked for clear cutting back in the day. This would cause the saw blades foresters would use to explode in their face, in fact George Alexander, a millworker, was severely injured when a saw blade shattered after contact with a tree spike and cut his jaw in half.
His name is Jason Alexander, he only played a character named George.
George Alexander would then form a band, drop two hits, then write for other artists away from the limelight.
Oh wait, that’s Gregg.
I thought he conquered the eastern Mediterranean, Egypt, the Middle East, and parts of Asia in a remarkably short period of time.
I thought no one was prosecuted in that case.
I think it says more about the personalities on each side. ICE loving climate deniers are aggressive by nature.
No, it’s more that people who care about climate change are good at long term thinking. There are no cuddly animals to rescue right now, so people who want instant gratification do other things.
People who are good at long term thinking commit fewer types of impulse crimes. Vandalism is an unintelligent way to get your point across. There’s nothing inherently wrong with the paint job on the SUV.
I’ve seen ICE folks run cyclists off of roads. I don’t think I’ve ever seen an EV or cyclist attack a shitwagon.
I dunno man, how ever you measure it I think the ice folks are more aggressive by nature, these are the same coal rolling fucks who like to pollute intentionally as a ‘fuck you’ to environmentalists.
Maybe environmental movements don’t attract the types of people who do this stuff or maybe it’s not personal it’s impersonal? Big difference between being told in your childhood house of worship that you are going to happy sky place if you die for skydaddy or seeing your uncle dragged off in the night vs. seeing a PowerPoint about climate change. Or maybe it’s just a number game. Environmental groups just don’t have enough people to get them in the pool.
Not sure.
They probably just wanted to see if it’s really bulletproof…
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No! Bad DarkThoughts!
You call a tow truck and have the vehicle towed at the owner’s expense.
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No it’s not. You can’t park your car on the sidewalk unless explicitly allowed by a sign. If you park on the sidewalk you have to pay a fine, if your car is blocking something you also get a Punkt in Flensburg.
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Calm down. I didn’t say it’s not what’s happening. Yes it is happening, especially in bigger citys. Yes it is incredibly annoying. But that doesn’t mean it’s legal. Have you tried to do anything about it?
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what happens if you report them?
In what world is a tow truck going to tow a car for parking on the side walk? They’re gonna tell you to call the cops or parking enforcement and the cops don’t even show up for gun shots
Can’t say I agree. For example, if someone hits you with their car? It’s ok to scratch it.
Edit: The downvotes on this are fucking unreal, imagine being upset that the person you just mowed over scratched your car. Fuck right off with that bullshit.
Are you 12?
Or do you just see every unfortunate occurrence as personal victimization?
Troll harder kid, you’ll get it one day!
You know, I agree. But also, you can’t imagine how much I want to scratch the cars that just park illegally in my neighborhood. They park on the curves and crossings and in such small distances that I literally cannot pass through with my stroller without scratching them. So I end up going around the block(s) further and further away just to pass through some gap of illegally parked cars that’s just big enough if I am very careful. But then I end up thinking, wtf. Why do I have to be careful to not scratch their wrongfully parked cars, a private property that they left outside on a place designed and protected by law to be solely for pedestrians, with my private property that should be able to walk this road? And also, why do I not get the same protection if I want to park my bike or stroller outside? Because no one cares if my private property is damaged when it is left outside. If I scratch my stroller on an illegally parked car when I cross the road at the place I am supposed to be crossing somehow I am the one who has to pay damages.
Carrie Underwood has an entire song about how you are wrong.
Yeah but it’s not a stranger in the song
But giving them the finger is
That doesn’t do expensive damage. I am pro-finger.
Edit: come on, “pro-finger”? Nobody’s gonna take that and run with it? I’m disappointed.
On purpose yes, by accident, what can you do
True. I had intentional damage in mind.
Even then, in a “lorry problem” type of scenario, it could be OK. Like, you have a lever and there’s a fascist con-man polluting the world with bad ideas and products, and you could either do nothing or use the lever to go to town on one of those products to send a message to his supporters, I know what I would do
Purposely, yeah, but if I open my door into it, don’t park do fucking close to the line
But what if the person on the other side was parked over the line and I had to leave space to get out and then they left and now I look like I parked like an asshole and then some asshole uses that as an excuse to ding my car.
Drive a normal sized car and that won’t happen. Or just you know walk a bit extra. Won’t kill you.
That’s just how the cookie crumbles. If you really can’t stomach any dings leave the car in the garage
I am on your side about this. I can’t stand the people who need their car to be in perfect appearance and do asshole things to get it that way.
It’s a fucking machine that you use to move goods and people from a to b. Not a statement, not a status symbol, not a penis enhancement. Scratches are just battle scars. My civic looks like shit and I don’t care.
Get fucked carfuckers