I’ve watched decades of leftist get their heads kicked in by conservative police forces who have learned how to better kick in heads. Mean while leftists are showing up with a playbook that hasn’t been updated in 70 years. If anything the 70s probably had more effective playbook. Point is its fun to say but the left is not making a great case for learning and adapting.
Hell in Canada they have pretty much fucked us for a few decades pretty severely
We’ve been fed a story about non violent protest leading to change. They told us any non violence but intentionally left out the most important part about those protests. Those marches were to places where all those people were going to get in line to register to vote. They were out to achieve something and gum up the system. They were forcing their oppressors to contend with them.
Just showing up with signs and saying you think something is wrong is never going to do anything. They know we don’t like it, they don’t care.
You have to go inside, make a demand, and be followed by a thousand people who also make a demand. Prevent them from doing business until they deal with you. They will respond with violence. That is the point.
You go with a specific list of demands, you go in to the place you want to meet those demands, and you don’t leave until you’re forced to. You keep doing that until it becomes a national problem.
You cannot effectively protest non violently without disrupting business in concrete in measurable ways. You might as well just shout at a wall.
I agree for the most part except I disagree that the solution is violent in anyway.
View Society fundamentally as in group and then a million out groups. Its pop culture vs sub groups. The right wing represent popular culture in almost every country they are traditionalist. They are where every other group wants to be. They are blue jean letter jacket pop culture.
The left wing are always the rejects, both by choice and not by choice. They are various groups of skids and punks and poor and jobless and immigrants. Unified under this idea that they deserve the attention and same rules applied to the pop group.
Protests is a way the sub groups fight to gain equality with the pop group. Little by little it can succeed with violence but I don’t believe that’s effective. I think it does the opposite. I think a lot of these protests serve the people that are being protested more. That’s because a lot of modern protestors seem to have gone with this view that becoming a burden to everyone is the way to get movement?
Environmental activist deflate tires and stand in traffic. During morning commutes for example. If you look at life as groups all vying for popularity, these actions are unpopular and alienate these groups and their associated causes. Being violent also accomplishes this. Violence can get a lot done. Doesn’t mean its the most effective. I just cannot believe modern day protestors have never decided to make their cause appealing in a way to make their cause something that people would want to join. Why is it always being obnoxious and shouting and violent or a nuisance. I have a suspicion that large entities figured out long ago you can beat these protestors and kill their momentum by actually encouraging them. Not just encouraging them but finding the most radical and unappealing ones in the group and funding them so they become leaders.
I’ve watched decades of leftist get their heads kicked in by conservative police forces who have learned how to better kick in heads. Mean while leftists are showing up with a playbook that hasn’t been updated in 70 years. If anything the 70s probably had more effective playbook. Point is its fun to say but the left is not making a great case for learning and adapting.
Hell in Canada they have pretty much fucked us for a few decades pretty severely
We’ve been fed a story about non violent protest leading to change. They told us any non violence but intentionally left out the most important part about those protests. Those marches were to places where all those people were going to get in line to register to vote. They were out to achieve something and gum up the system. They were forcing their oppressors to contend with them.
Just showing up with signs and saying you think something is wrong is never going to do anything. They know we don’t like it, they don’t care.
You have to go inside, make a demand, and be followed by a thousand people who also make a demand. Prevent them from doing business until they deal with you. They will respond with violence. That is the point.
You go with a specific list of demands, you go in to the place you want to meet those demands, and you don’t leave until you’re forced to. You keep doing that until it becomes a national problem.
You cannot effectively protest non violently without disrupting business in concrete in measurable ways. You might as well just shout at a wall.
I agree for the most part except I disagree that the solution is violent in anyway.
View Society fundamentally as in group and then a million out groups. Its pop culture vs sub groups. The right wing represent popular culture in almost every country they are traditionalist. They are where every other group wants to be. They are blue jean letter jacket pop culture.
The left wing are always the rejects, both by choice and not by choice. They are various groups of skids and punks and poor and jobless and immigrants. Unified under this idea that they deserve the attention and same rules applied to the pop group.
Protests is a way the sub groups fight to gain equality with the pop group. Little by little it can succeed with violence but I don’t believe that’s effective. I think it does the opposite. I think a lot of these protests serve the people that are being protested more. That’s because a lot of modern protestors seem to have gone with this view that becoming a burden to everyone is the way to get movement?
Environmental activist deflate tires and stand in traffic. During morning commutes for example. If you look at life as groups all vying for popularity, these actions are unpopular and alienate these groups and their associated causes. Being violent also accomplishes this. Violence can get a lot done. Doesn’t mean its the most effective. I just cannot believe modern day protestors have never decided to make their cause appealing in a way to make their cause something that people would want to join. Why is it always being obnoxious and shouting and violent or a nuisance. I have a suspicion that large entities figured out long ago you can beat these protestors and kill their momentum by actually encouraging them. Not just encouraging them but finding the most radical and unappealing ones in the group and funding them so they become leaders.
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