• Tryptaminev@lemm.ee
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    7 months ago

    You fall into the trap of believing that these are you only two options. But you can demonstrate now. You can put pressure on your represantatives now. You can organize Union action now. But you also need to ask yourself seriously, which factual differences are there between Trumps reign an Bidens reign. Biden still runs the internment camps. Biden increased the crackdown on immigrants. Biden is building the wall we all mocked Trump for for years. And also Biden did not push for Trump to be held accountable sooner and better. He did not push to address Jan 6. with the attention it deserves. He tried to go back to business as usual quite fast and his business as usual is more or less the same as under Trump, with the difference that he is now actively endorsing and supporting a genocide. Maybe not through his words but through his actions.

    • Curious Canid@lemmy.ca
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      7 months ago

      You’re seeing only ideals and not reality. I’m all in favor of applying pressure toward better goals to both parties. That does not change the fact that a candidate of one of those two parties is going to win the election and run the country.

      False equivalence is another problem with ignoring practical results in favor of pure ideology. There is a vast difference between Biden and Trump. It’s obvious from looking at what they’ve done already. It become even more stark if you pay attention to what Trump is saying he intends to do if re-elected. Trump genuinely wants to destroy our system of government, eliminate democracy, and rule as a dictator. He badly wants to persecute those who have offended him or who disagree with him. And he now has detailed plans for how to go about those things. When someone tells you who they are you should believe them.

      Biden will run things the way he has been, which does not make me happy, but provides an opportunity for change within the system. How do you expect to enact progressive changes under a right-wing autocracy?

      Even if your only concern is the Gaza genocide, Biden and Trump have significantly different positions. Biden has making a weak and unsuccessful attempts to rein in Israel. There is reasonable hope that he does have a limit for how far he’s willing to go in that direction, as evidenced by his temporary halting arms shipments. Trump has said that he supports what Israel is doing, but thinks they aren’t going far enough. He has, in the past, suggested using nuclear weapons to resolve situations like this.

      It all comes back to false equivalence. We are not talking about two of the typical business-as-usual candidates. We are on the verge of becoming Nazi Germany. If you aren’t doing everything you can to prevent that, whatever efforts you make toward other goals are going become irrelevant.

      • zazo@lemmy.world
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        7 months ago

        The famous change within the system - please tell me more about where that has led us - surely in the direction of more transparency and democracy right? definitely and not just pushing the needle further and further right.

        But hey keep swimming in the pot and telling the other frogs that the water may be getting warmer but you know at least the cook hasn’t burned us alive yet…