• CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    14
    ·
    6 months ago

    The only way the lib left could make the reactionary right reject Trump is by reacting to him like sane people, which y’all are incapable of

    So what’s the sane way to react to him directly contradicting himself and lying about things we have video evidence of?

    • Westwolf@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      12
      ·
      6 months ago

      Clearly, it’s too call everyone who is voting for him a fascist, declare that democracy has fallen, and throw a temper tantrum in the middle of the street. Honestly, there’s probably nothing that can be done at this point. After 8 years of histrionics over Trump – four of which he wasn’t even in office – it would be almost impossible to change the right’s perception of the left as arrogant, elitist, hypocritical crybullies.

      • Facebones@reddthat.com
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        9
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        6 months ago

        “Laws matter and words mean things”

        “Oh here we go again with the arrogant elitist hypocrites!”

        Shut the fuck up

        • Westwolf@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          7
          ·
          6 months ago

          What a powerful argument. Not at all the reaction of an arrogant, elitist, hypocritical crybully.

      • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        7
        ·
        6 months ago

        So to be clear: You come here telling the “lib left” they need to behave more rationally, and when asked what that would look like you respond with sarcasm, insults, and don’t actually answer the question.

        I don’t think you’re exactly role modeling “reacting like a sane person” here.

        • Westwolf@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          8
          ·
          6 months ago

          The question was glib nonsense. It’s not about how one reacts to any individual thing Trump does, especially not when that thing is itself a reaction to the larger context of the liberal/left reaction to Trump’s mere existence.

          • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            6 months ago

            So your original statement was glib nonsense then?

            I took your original post at face value, asked an honest follow up of “what would that look like?” And you got offended by that.

            You just came here to be a reactionary.

      • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        6 months ago

        Clearly, it’s too call everyone who is voting for him a fascist, declare that democracy has fallen, and throw a temper tantrum in the middle of the street

        So the things MAGA have been doing for the past 8 years?

        • Westwolf@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          9
          ·
          6 months ago

          Do you really think that’s a fair assessment of what “MAGA” have been doing for the past 8 years? Maybe the last 4 years, but they were hardly saying such things when their boy was in office.

          Actually, I don’t care. What I really want to know is what your point is? “They do it, so it’s okay if we do it?” They are, for the most part, a bunch of reactionaries. Trump’s base is largely uneducated, lower-middle-class white Christians who don’t understand why liberals are radically deconstructing Western civilization around their ears and are terrified of the Brave New World liberals are ushering in. They are reacting out of fear, panic, and resentment towards a cultural elite that considers them ignorant rabble that needs to be told to shut the fuck up, rather than educated – and often it appears that the cultural elite doesn’t want to explain itself because whenever it tries, it’s so obviously intellectually bankrupt that even the uneducated rabble can see right through it.

          Shouldn’t you be better than that? Isn’t that your whole premise? That you’re smarter than them?

          • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            6 months ago

            What I really want to know is what your point is?

            That it’s always projection. “Accuse the Lib left of doing the things we are doing! Then we don’t have to defend ourselves!”

            resentment towards a cultural elite that considers them ignorant rabble that needs to be told to shut the fuck up, rather than educated – and often it appears that the cultural elite doesn’t want to explain itself because whenever it tries, it’s so obviously intellectually bankrupt that even the uneducated rabble can see right through it.

            As opposed to you who considers the “Lib left” ignorant rabble that needs to be told to shut the fuck up, and don’t bother to explain yourself because you’re so obviously intellectually bankrupt that even the uneducated rabble can see right through it.

            Shouldn’t you be better than that? Isn’t that your whole premise?