• Wanderer@lemm.ee
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      5 months ago

      Congratulations on being black.

      But there isn’t much I can do to convince you to be black or not so it is irrelevant.

      Seeing as we are talking about views and information. Then views are are relevant. Also I was directly (and incorrectly) called out for not being a leftie.

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        5 months ago

        I am calling horseshit on you being “a leftie.”

        I’m sorry it wasn’t blunt enough the first time.

        ‘I’d always support [blank], but now they’ve nonspecifically gone too far! so I’m voting for the complete opposite’ is fascist propaganda. What’s it doing in your mouth, comrade?

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          5 months ago

          Let me ask you bluntly then.

          What makes a person left leaning vs right leaning? I’m talking minimum standard to be a leftie here not current left or current right parties.

          I mean historically what views separate the right from the left?

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            5 months ago

            Why would anyone put effort into spoon-feeding you your own claimed philosophy, when the root comment is generic whining that “the left has completely lost their mind?” Your sole bugbear is immigration (a stereotypical right-wing fixation) and all you’ve done is mumble about “more,” until it’s “enough.”

            You don’t even know what valid criticism looks like.

            Oh, sorry, you do eventually blame immigrants for housing and wages. Because scapegoating brown people is totes mcgoats the leftist approach to problems with capital.

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              5 months ago

              Left has historically been trade and labour restrictive. This is why the left has lost their mind they are just making up things. The right historically pushes for free trade and free labour and low government involvement.

              That’s why you can’t answer what separates the left from the right because you know it has nothing to do with immigration. You know full well I’m perfectly capable of having serious left leaning views and that I can also be against immigration so your whole argument breaks down.

              What’s wrong with capital. It’s a much needed resource, both the left and the right agree on this. Unless you are a complete off the wall extremist.

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                5 months ago

                Yeah, you have no idea how obvious you are. Good day.

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                  5 months ago

                  You’re all so close minded.

                  You think I’m something I’m not. Economically left and low immigration has historically gone hand in hand. I’m like that. So I have to make a choice.

                  I’ll take long term gains of low immigration over short term gains from economics.

                  You should really look into what the left is about. Its more than just the current parties and current mental vocal lefties.

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                    5 months ago

                    Dismissing cartoonish bullshit like ‘the left restricts labor while the right just loves FREEDOM!’ is not closed-mindedness.

                    Economically left and low immigration has historically gone hand in hand.

                    My fat ass.

                    Every single post you’ve made here is bog-standard right-wing rhetoric. Fuck off with it. Your perspective consistently and loudly sounds like any conservative prick making up what they think the left criticizing the left would sound like, because they don’t fucking listen. A mouthful of the most generic attacks on how they’re “mental!” “gone mad!” “lost their minds!” with zero specifics and no fucking philosophy. Christ alive, do you know how hard it is to stop actual left-wing bitching from devolving into a sermon on theory?