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hostops to Matrix@lemmy.ml ·
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Does anyone know when can we expect to communicate with whatsapp or facebook messenger users on element?

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Does anyone know when can we expect to communicate with whatsapp or facebook messenger users on element?

hostops to Matrix@lemmy.ml ·
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Edit: Question based on DMA: element.io/blog/the-eu-digital-markets-act-is-here/

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  • testman@lemmy.ml
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    As far as I know, the Signal protocol was chosen to be the intermediary layer between the existing platforms. Matrix protocol was a candidate, but was not chosen.

    Still, if you wish to use a bridge between Matrix and some other platform, then you can either set one up yourself or try to find a Matrix server that already has such bridge set up. https://matrix.org/ecosystem/bridges/

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      Do you have any articles or publications about that decision being made?

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        https://www.pcmag.com/news/meta-adds-interoperability-with-signals-tech-for-whatsapp-messenger-in
        https://techcrunch.com/2024/03/06/to-comply-with-dma-whatsapp-and-messenger-will-become-interoperable-via-signal/
        I am still interested to know the details of how they came to this decision. Why Signal instead of Matrix.

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          I am still interested to know the details of how they came to this decision. Why Signal instead of Matrix.

          AFAIK, signal doesn’t federate, There is no “signal server-to-server” protocol. When people say “The Signal Protocol”, they are talking about a cryptographic protocol, not a network protocol.

          As for why they wouldn’t use Matrix, I would assume it’s just too heavy of a protocol for the scale they operate at. IIRC, Matrix isn’t just a chat protocol. It’s a multi-peer cryptographic state synchronization protocol. Chat is (was?) just the first “easy” application they were going to apply it to. (Now I’m curious if they still have plans for that at some point.) They’ve been making great strides in improving the efficiency, at least in the client-server API (I haven’t been paying attention to the server-server API at all), but it’s still going to be a heck of a lot more compute heavy than whatever custom API they’re providing.

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    I swear I feel like a shill…

    Check out beeper.

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    http://github.com/matrix-org/dma-demo-app-bridge-whatsapp

    This is one thing I’ve found on their github so far, but it seems inactive.

    There is a fork that element seem to have forked back:

    http://github.com/element-hq/mautrix-whatsapp

    from

    http://github.com/mautrix/whatsapp

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    why would we be able to? are the any plans to open them up?

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      element.io/blog/the-eu-digital-markets-act-is-here/

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        interesting thanks, that’s cool to hear. Sad that there’s no effort to move to a standard protocol, but understandable.

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    You can right now … except it is a paid service … https://element.io/blog/element-one-all-of-matrix-whatsapp-signal-and-telegram-in-one-place/

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