Okay, so this isn’t actually about hydration, it’s about the fact that SSRIs commonly cause dry mouth as a side effect due to anticholinergic effects which reduce saliva release Some SSRIs are worse than others, and older TCAs are worse still. But OP is not dehydrated.
Water is great for hydration, but it is unfortunately not very effective at managing dry mouth due to these side effects. Flavoured beverages typically work better because they promote saliva release.
I would suggest OP add something with a sour note to their water, like lemon or lime juice which are unsweetened and have effectively no caloric component. Alternatively even just a splash of carbonated water will also work as the bubbles are irritants and will similarly stimulate saliva release.
Shrubs are delectable! But they could be seen as an intimidating suggestion in this context. IKEA has some affordable fruit concentrates of lingonberry, blueberry, and elderflower you could substitute with a splash of vinegar for a refreshing lower effort treat.
I think I had watched his switchel and shrub videos too!
I want to say it was Alton Brown where I first learned about these. I’ve made shrub a few times and even had it at the local Pennsylvania German heritage fairs.
Since I had the stuff on hand, I quick threw some together, just eyeballing the ingredients. It’s pretty darn good!
Main flavor is obviously molasses, so if you don’t like that, you won’t like switchel. The ginger and vinegar work together very nicely! Both bring a nice zing and brightness to the drink. It contrasts well with the warm and earthy flavor of the molasses.
I put most of it in the fridge for after work as it’s going to be a super hot day again and I didn’t want a vinegar taste in my mouth overpowering my coffee.
I made it last night, used half molasses half maple syrup. But the recipe I tried used lemon and I didn’t like the resulting flavour. Also the ginger we had wasn’t as fresh as I would have liked. I’ll try it again using a more traditional recipe.
Lemon does sound like it’d be a lot of sour in addition to the vinegar itself.
I used powdered ginger and thought fresh grated would be the way to go. I also feel it’d be easier to strain it if the final drink.
Overall I thought it was good though. I gave some to my girlfriend not telling her what it was and she thought it was some vile beer type thing that went bad. 😆
I’d absolutely drink it again though. With some tweaks it’d be really good. I am solidly pro switchel.
lol this isn’t about dry mouth. I already had dry mouth, which I manage with xylitol (lmk if they make any of those fruit things that can adhere to the side of your mouth like xylitol melts)
SSRIs cause dehydration. when I drink straight water on them, it sends me to the bathroom pretty frequently. I don’t find Gatorade particularly more refreshing than water, but it tends to stay inside me after I drink it, when I’m on SSRIs. yes I’ve had my blood sugar checked
The water moving right through is probably a good sign someone is well hydrated! There can be total body water versus intravascular volume depletion scenarios, but not super likely unless someone is sick in other ways.
The xylitol itself may be contributing to GI water losses (it’s only about 50% absorbed through the gut, and osmotically draws water into/keeps water from being absorbed from the intestinal lumen). Depending on the SSRI, this could be exacerbated by bowel irritability that can present as diarrhea (sertraline is notorious for this).
Some folks also report more urination with intake of sugar alcohols like xylitol. I don’t have a mechanism of action for that, so take those reports with a grain of salt. (And also some glucose because sodium-glucose symport allows for water absorption without the need for an ATP pump.)
How do you boost intramuscular water retention? I get so dehydrated sometimes my brain burns and hurts. I need serious electrolytes like 1 to 3 body armours to replenish followed by 48oz water. Followed by hours to recalibrate my body from nausea and migraines. Urine can be clear but I can be so thirsty its unbearable. Literally feels like my brain is shrinking.
How do you boost intramuscular water retention? I get so dehydrated sometimes my brain burns and hurts.
Those sound like two very different things. Typically your cells manage this just fine on their own with just plain water intake provided the kidneys are working fine. Time to attain equilibrium is also important. For example, dumping a bag of IV fluid into someone’s veins will help replenish the volume of fluid in their blood vessels quickly at the outset. But it will move to the other parts of the body (or get dumped by the kidneys if the intravascular volume is already adequate).
I need serious electrolytes like 1 to 3 body armours to replenish followed by 48oz water. Followed by hours to recalibrate my body from nausea and migraines.
How well hydrated a person is before activity matters more for performance and recovery than we often recognize. Lots of studies of elite athletes and dehydration on performance and recovery. Also of these drinks have artificial sweeteners, that may be playing against you.
Urine can be clear but I can be so thirsty its unbearable. Literally feels like my brain is shrinking.
That sounds miserable. If better pre-activity hydration doesn’t solve the problem, you might want to speak to a care provider and make sure everything is ok with some tests.
Okay, so this isn’t actually about hydration, it’s about the fact that SSRIs commonly cause dry mouth as a side effect due to anticholinergic effects which reduce saliva release Some SSRIs are worse than others, and older TCAs are worse still. But OP is not dehydrated.
Water is great for hydration, but it is unfortunately not very effective at managing dry mouth due to these side effects. Flavoured beverages typically work better because they promote saliva release.
I would suggest OP add something with a sour note to their water, like lemon or lime juice which are unsweetened and have effectively no caloric component. Alternatively even just a splash of carbonated water will also work as the bubbles are irritants and will similarly stimulate saliva release.
I was just thinking some shrub syrup fits the bill and is tasty, convenient, and a touch unconventional these days so you can look like a trendsetter.
Your comment seems to fit shrub perfectly.
Shrubs are delectable! But they could be seen as an intimidating suggestion in this context. IKEA has some affordable fruit concentrates of lingonberry, blueberry, and elderflower you could substitute with a splash of vinegar for a refreshing lower effort treat.
Very true. Any fruit syrup with a vinegar glug would get you there well enough if one wanted to see if they were shrub-folk.
Ooo I need to try making switchel. Just remembered I have molasses sitting around for another item.
You seriously put much thought into this, and I appreciate that.
This made its way into my YT recommendations and I watched it because… boredom. But I really want to try tis switchel thing.
https://youtu.be/zBGg4Svd8HI?si=PmgDEx4KWPteTigb
I think I had watched his switchel and shrub videos too!
I want to say it was Alton Brown where I first learned about these. I’ve made shrub a few times and even had it at the local Pennsylvania German heritage fairs.
Since I had the stuff on hand, I quick threw some together, just eyeballing the ingredients. It’s pretty darn good!
Main flavor is obviously molasses, so if you don’t like that, you won’t like switchel. The ginger and vinegar work together very nicely! Both bring a nice zing and brightness to the drink. It contrasts well with the warm and earthy flavor of the molasses.
I put most of it in the fridge for after work as it’s going to be a super hot day again and I didn’t want a vinegar taste in my mouth overpowering my coffee.
If you have the stuff, I absolutely recommend it.
I made it last night, used half molasses half maple syrup. But the recipe I tried used lemon and I didn’t like the resulting flavour. Also the ginger we had wasn’t as fresh as I would have liked. I’ll try it again using a more traditional recipe.
Lemon does sound like it’d be a lot of sour in addition to the vinegar itself.
I used powdered ginger and thought fresh grated would be the way to go. I also feel it’d be easier to strain it if the final drink.
Overall I thought it was good though. I gave some to my girlfriend not telling her what it was and she thought it was some vile beer type thing that went bad. 😆
I’d absolutely drink it again though. With some tweaks it’d be really good. I am solidly pro switchel.
“white-nose, apple-jack, stone-wall, chain-lightning, rail-road, hail storminsling-talabogus, switchel-flip, gum-ticklers, phlem-cutters, joleps, skate-iron, cast-steel, cock-tail…”
Deadass was about to come in here talking about switchel, that shit is bomb AF. #switchelyfe
lol this isn’t about dry mouth. I already had dry mouth, which I manage with xylitol (lmk if they make any of those fruit things that can adhere to the side of your mouth like xylitol melts)
SSRIs cause dehydration. when I drink straight water on them, it sends me to the bathroom pretty frequently. I don’t find Gatorade particularly more refreshing than water, but it tends to stay inside me after I drink it, when I’m on SSRIs. yes I’ve had my blood sugar checked
The water moving right through is probably a good sign someone is well hydrated! There can be total body water versus intravascular volume depletion scenarios, but not super likely unless someone is sick in other ways.
The xylitol itself may be contributing to GI water losses (it’s only about 50% absorbed through the gut, and osmotically draws water into/keeps water from being absorbed from the intestinal lumen). Depending on the SSRI, this could be exacerbated by bowel irritability that can present as diarrhea (sertraline is notorious for this).
Some folks also report more urination with intake of sugar alcohols like xylitol. I don’t have a mechanism of action for that, so take those reports with a grain of salt. (And also some glucose because sodium-glucose symport allows for water absorption without the need for an ATP pump.)
How do you boost intramuscular water retention? I get so dehydrated sometimes my brain burns and hurts. I need serious electrolytes like 1 to 3 body armours to replenish followed by 48oz water. Followed by hours to recalibrate my body from nausea and migraines. Urine can be clear but I can be so thirsty its unbearable. Literally feels like my brain is shrinking.
Those sound like two very different things. Typically your cells manage this just fine on their own with just plain water intake provided the kidneys are working fine. Time to attain equilibrium is also important. For example, dumping a bag of IV fluid into someone’s veins will help replenish the volume of fluid in their blood vessels quickly at the outset. But it will move to the other parts of the body (or get dumped by the kidneys if the intravascular volume is already adequate).
How well hydrated a person is before activity matters more for performance and recovery than we often recognize. Lots of studies of elite athletes and dehydration on performance and recovery. Also of these drinks have artificial sweeteners, that may be playing against you.
That sounds miserable. If better pre-activity hydration doesn’t solve the problem, you might want to speak to a care provider and make sure everything is ok with some tests.