The investigators also asked Hair for permission to check his uniforms for semen.

“I don’t know my rights. Do I have to?” the former officer asked. “I don’t think I want to do that.”

I plead the right to no blacklight searches!

  • themeatbridge@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    5
    ·
    6 months ago

    How is it not force when placing someone under arrest, putting them in the back of a locked police car, and driving them to the police station for booking?

    If a police officer took money in exchange for their detainee’s freedom, then yes that is absolutely robbery. There is always the implicit threat of violence and imprisonment when someone is under arrest. To refuse a police officer while in custody is to risk your own safety and life. Under those conditions, there can be no version of consent thatmitigates the crime.

    • phoneymouse@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      6 months ago

      You’re basically saying if anyone commits a crime and an officer arrests them for that crime, but the person offers money or sex to get out of it, and the officer accepts, then that person was robbed or raped. So, all any criminal needs to do to become a victim is convince the officer to take their bribe.

      Don’t you think there is nuance in how both parties behaved?

      If the officer was going to execute their duties fairly, but gave in to temptation and took the persons offer; that is bribery and corruption.

      If the officer fabricated or embellished the charges and used that to make a threat against someone in order to pressure that person to give something of value, then that is rape/robbery, and blackmail.

      A court and jury should review the case closely, but from the article, it sounds like the officer was doing his duty in arresting the woman on legitimate legal grounds, and then she offered sex to get out of trouble, which he accepted. I did not see any evidence that he threatened to escalate the trouble she was already in, in order to get sex out of her.

      • themeatbridge@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        6 months ago

        Yes, if an officer uses their position of authority to take money that doesn’t belong to them, it is theft. If they use the threat of imprisonment to have sex with someone, that’s rape. This isn’t complicated. It doesn’t matter if the bribe was offered or solicited, the officer is either using force to have non-consensual sex or taking something that doesnt belong to them. It doesn’t matter if there was an actual quid pro quo agreement, or if the officer was planning to continue to deliver the detainee to jail. It doesn’t matter at all if the detainee is guilty, and it’s disgusting to suggest that it does so you should stop that.

        • phoneymouse@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          6 months ago

          It depends on the behavior of the officer. It’s the difference between these two statements:

          “I’m going to make things worse than they should be for you if you don’t do what I want”

          And

          “Ok, I will not fulfill my duty because you offered me something to look the other way.”

          In the first case, the officer IS using the threat of imprisonment to have sex with someone. In the second case, the officer is shirking his duty because the arrestee has offered a quid pro quo. These are two different scenarios and it comes down to who is instigating the act. In the eyes of the law, intentions matter. This is why there is a distinction between first and second degree murder.

          • themeatbridge@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            6 months ago

            No. Stop it. There is no difference between those two crimes because of the inherent power disparity between police and detainees.

      • Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        edit-2
        6 months ago

        almost arguable that the power dynamic goes the other way since women can get a lot done with just their boobs. I’m certain I can prove that men are mentally under performing when a girl starts seducing them to the point that they will lock themselves in their own car.