• snooggums@midwest.social
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    The current right wing government also doesn’t represent every citizen of Israel either, but it is ok to use ‘Israel’ as a shorthand for the actions of the current right wing government when the actions are a continuation of decades of similar colonialism and the government is in power due to how the majority of the population voted.

    So hatred against everyone in Israel is also wrong, but saying Israel is committing genocide doesn’t require saying it is the current government.

    This meme should say “The actions of Israel does not represent the will of all Jews,”

    Edit: I expect everyone who down voted also refrains from using Russia, China, or the United States and other names of countries when making criticisms for consistency. “Russia didn’t invade Ukraine, the current Putin led government did.”

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      It happens to be the Israel government that claims anything hamas does should be taken out on all Arabs in Gaza.

      It’s only fair to offer them the same privilege - you elect a government and they represent your country. What they do the people has to answer for.

      Should I be allowed to vote for someone that say “we should exterminate all swedes” and not stand to answer for that when they get power and start killing swedes?

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        Not everyone voted for him you dipshit.

        When trump got elected, did every american vote for him? Use your fucking brain.

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          doesn’t matter much as he got elected. He shouldn’t be stopped from power by vote - he should be unable to run.

          You need to take responsibility for your laws and how your society works.

          Trumps people seem to understand this and makes actual change to how the US works.

          To me it seems they are making it worse, but there’s no revolt, so I’m guessing people accept it, even if not cheering.

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            I need to take responsibility for MY laws? I vote for the most left party available in my country. What do you want me to do? Walk into the presidents office and slap his ass across the room?

            A ton of people are protesting. We are doing our best. The government is not like the little sloth operated office from zootopia. They will beat the fuck out of you and turn you into swiss cheese with bullets if you revolt.

            I can’t fight a tank or an army.

            Or do you think i get a letter in the mail for every law so i can vote for that specific one or deny it?

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              I don’t think you do. But you have resigned because what can you do than protest?

              In time when you are pushed even further down into the shit your kids will figure it out. People always do, it just takes time to get to that level - and leave the humanity behind.

              And it sure looks like it’s going to shit really fast - with 1700-era laws for guns and forcing women to be reproduction-machines without a voice. Especially as you didn’t have that much freedom in the first place.

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            Applying your logic to the letter, does that mean that a German Communist who lost years of his life in Auschwitz for trying to oppose the nazi regime should be punished for failing to prevent Hitler from reaching power? How does that work?