We take a look at all the countries and territories where it is still illegal to be gay or LGBTQ+ – and examine the role colonialism played.
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We get it you love doing an islamophobia and will jump at any opportunity to hate on it.
This isn’t about islam right now bud, the topic’s colonialism.
The topic is persecution of LGBTQ+ folk and unless we wanna exclude the majority of countries from that list, we should talk about Islamic Regimes.
Because surprise, surprise, a patriachical authoritarian religion will come down hard on dissenters :)
The topic is persecution of LGBTQ+ folk …where it’s the result of colonialism.
There’s not a soul that will deny the homophobia present in islamic states, but that’s not the point of this article. You people just can’t help yourself.
The point of the article is trying to explain the persistence of anti LGBTQIA+ legislation in the world. This is discussing an alternative (or in scientific terms, confounding variable) that challenges the absolute notions laid out in the article. I have no stake in this argument and am making no points against the British Empire or the Muslim religion, but to state that this discussion isn’t relevant to the article is frankly disingenuous.
As a bisexual man of historical UK origin, I can see and understand both impacts simultaneously. I also think we can discuss all forms of queerphobia simultaneously, and that it does a disservice to all my LGBTQIA+ comrades to dissent genuine discussion over the impacts of both colonialism and religion on the presence of queerphobia just because that’s not the specific angle of this specific article.
The tjing you quoted sure as hell isnt the title of it. The main argument of the article is “Its all colonialism’s fault” and people pointing put that its not. Like yeah, you people, because anyone who critizes the treatment of minorities in Islamic States must be Islamophobic, just like anyone who critizises Isreal must be an Antisemite lol.
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You sound insufferable
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Hey dude! How’s your dad?
Why was this removed by mod?
Highly upvoted and removed by mod? Must have been a doozy!
Well, there’s a difference between settler colonialism (which replaces the indigenous population) and the sort of imperialist and classic colonialism in a lot of parts of this map, where people move in and resources are extracted, but you’re left with a traumatized population instead of a genocided one, like in North and South America as well as Australia, so we’d expect the results to probably be different.
Not that I think religion helps these matters, as the US which is slowly turning Christo-fascist and reversing LGBTQ rights, probably not coincidentally, shows. I just don’t agree with the Islamophobia part. Christianity looks pretty draconian on these issues too in some parts of Africa.
Not enough people are aware of colonialism’s role in spreading queerphobia across the globe. When I try to explain it, they look at me like I’m making it up.
Palestine: Same-sex sexual activity is technically illegal in Gaza. The provision was introduced by Britain during its mandate over Palestine, although there’s little evidence that the law is enforced today.
No, it is still not safe if you are queer. They tortured and executed a Hamas commander via firing squad for being suspected of being gay.
https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2016/03/hamas-commander-accused-of-gay-sex-is-executed/
Wasn’t Ethiopia never colonized?
Yes. From the article:
Ethiopia: […] It is one of the few African countries that enacted its own anti-gay laws – most others inherited those laws from Britain.
Ethiopian here, Ethiopia was never colonized but unfortunately we’ve managed to be incredibly anti-lgbtq all on our own.
Personally, I blame our long history of Christianity and Islam which both carry anti-lgbtq beliefs.
It was occupied by Italy in WW2, which is outside the “Scramble for Africa” period but is an occupation by a European power
Is it not illegal in Russia?
No, because in Russia there are no gays according to Putin.
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Would Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, and arguably Afghanistan be the fault of Marxist-Leninist-Stalinist colonialism?
Stalin made homosexuality illegal in the Soviet Union and continued the Russian colonization of central Asia. Brezhnev invaded Afghanistan. The laws weren’t repealed until Russia seceded from the Soviet Union in 1991
Idk about the others, but for Afghanistan, it’s probably because it was taken over by religious fundamentalists trained, supported, and armed by Pakistan, Iran, and the US in order to fight off Soviet Union influence, along with some other countries (China, UK, probably some others). They basically invaded because they were called in by the local government afraid of these terrorist groups, who also called problems in the Soviet Union (similar to the US invading after 9/11). (Interestingly enough, the Pakistan influence can also be said to be a result of colonialism since it’s existence is basically a result of English colonialism in India and the Middle-East.) After this, Afghanistan was basically a civil war zone between religious fundamentalist warlords fighting each other, the most extreme being the Taliban, but the other US allied ones weren’t great, either, and were all still fundamentalist Muslim.
The official anti-LGBT laws were vague when the Republic (the Soviet friendly government) was in charge, all of the terrible attitudes were probably still there but under religious rules and unofficial, and being invaded by the USSR for years never helps those kinds of things, either. It was more intense when the US friendly war lords were in charge and made Sharia more official, making LGBTQ laws worse as a sort of collateral. It then got even worse when the Taliban officially took over, now it’s even more explicit and the punishment even worse (death). I haven’t read the article yet so not sure if it talks about any of these things, or if I got anything super off, but I’ve just been listening and reading stuff about this lately and felt I could contribute lol.
uk, australia, and the us definitely need to be on the list
Queer Australian checking in here.
…what? Have you ever lived here or know what our laws are?
theres also a growing terf and neo nazi culture war brewing, similar to the uk, which the liberals are trying to exploit… im just saying its something to watch like canada
There will always be loonies who hate us for being who we are. We shafted the last one we had from our federal government at the last election. We have no laws that cause discrimination towards my comrades and to try to pretend like a few crazies are somehow making being queer illegal is just disingenuous. Please speak to your own context, because you don’t speak for mine.
I prefer the pride flag from NASA…
