• pavnilschanda@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Is this just some media manipulation to give a bad name on AI by connecting them with Nazis despite that it’s not just them benefiting from AI?

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      5 months ago

      Sounds like something an AI-loving Nazi would say!

      Seriously, though, yes. This was exactly my first thought. There are plenty of reasons to be apprehensive about AI, but conflating it with Nazis is just blatant propaganda.

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        5 months ago

        Nazis do thrive by spreading misinformation though, and AIs are great at presenting false information in a way that makes it look believable

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          5 months ago

          You are right. But I’m mostly observing how much of the newsfeed headlines talk about how AI is dangerous and dystopian (which can be especially done by bad actors e.g. the Neo-Nazis mentioned in the article, but the fear-mongering headlines outnumber more neutral or sometimes positive ones. Then again many news outlets benefit from such headlines anyway regardless of topic), and this one puts the cherry on top.

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            If neo nazis are deliberately trying to train the AIs that feed into everyone’s workflow, I think it is newsworthy despite what all the other headlines say.

            The Neo Nazis are the threat, the AI is being abused.

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              I think this is a misunderstanding of how most of the AI that feed into workflows work. Most of them don’t dynamically re-train live based off how users are using them. At least not outside of the context of that user/chat instance.

              Most likely what these and others are doing is to download pre-trained open source AI datasets thrn and run them locally so they aren’t restrained by any of the commercial AI’s limitations on what they will and won’t output to users. I highly doubt there’s enough material out there to truly train a new AI model on only explicitly racist material. This is just a bunch of assholes doing prompt engineering on open source models running locally.

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                5 months ago

                Oh, if it’s being run locally, then I’ve fundamentally misunderstood the situation. Thanks for pointing it out.

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      5 months ago

      Yep, pretty much.

      Musk tried creating an anti-woke AI with Grok that turned around and said things like:

      Or

      And Gab, the literal neo Nazi social media site trying to have an Adolf Hitler AI has the most ridiculous system prompts I’ve seen trying to get it to work, and even with all that it totally rejects the alignment they try to give it after only a few messages.

      This article is BS.

      They might like to, but it’s one of the groups that’s going to have a very difficult time doing it successfully.

      • r3df0x ✡️✝☪️@7.62x54r.ru
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        I wouldn’t say that Gab used to be an exclusively neo Nazi site, but now that Twitter allows standard conservative discussions, all the normal people probably left Gab for Twitter and now Gab is probably more of a Nazi shithole.

        I have seen openly Jewish people on Gab but you couldn’t go 10 posts without finding something blatantly racist.

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      The purpose of the piece is to smear the notion of individual control and development of AI tools. It’s known as ‘running propaganda’.