• Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Whenever essential functions (e.g. access) are powered, they’re supposed to have manual overrides. I’m pretty sure this is a regulatory requirement even here in the States where we’re stupid and regulatory agencies are mostly captured.

    So WTF happened, Tesla? Where’s the manual override for when the battery fails?

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      It’s basic safety for industrial plants to designate powered equipment as “fail open” or “fail closed” or on/off. It’s shocking that this wasn’t applied to Tesla cars.

      We really need an industry that performs industrial grade HAZOPs on consumer products and publishes a report for everyone to see.

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        That’s for if you’re inside, a mechanical access has to exist on the outside as well, no?

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          No. You just need to be able to exit without power. Getting back in mechanically isn’t a requirement.

          It should be, but it’s not.

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            Damn, even fighter jets have an external override. They’re even labeled for rescue workers.

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              I don’t know who Jettison Canopy is but I hope he’s around when you need to do this.

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                Not these Teslas, from what I understand. The type of glass they use is EXTREMELY resistant to shattering.

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          You can also “jump” the car to open it via a 12V access port in the front.

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            Yeah, doesn’t help much in case of actual emergency does it?

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                4 months ago

                They did

                The child was safely removed from the car after firefighters used an ax to smash through a window

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                  I know.

                  My response was to the previous comment.

                  In a non Tesla, if someone is locked in a car, what happens? There isn’t some secret “let me in” button. You just break a window. This is a dumb story.

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                    If someone is locked in your car and you’re the owner you simply use the key and open the door, no need to break anything, except in a Tesla.

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                    I mean, presumably if I’m standing outside my car with a key, I just unlock the door and open it. Can’t do that with a dead tesla.

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                Yeah, that’s much quicker than just unlocking the door with your fucking key, right?

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                Yeah…because breaking the window as your first option in an emergancy is a GREAT idea. No need for a manual handle with a key, right? What a stupid idea that would be.

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                  It’s not your first option in an emergency. Normally you just open the door. Breaking the glass is several layers of things-not-working deep.

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                Agree. The only worry is the flying glass might hurt the child.

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                  Tempered glass is designed to not be sharp when broken. But they break a window furthest from the person inside to limit damage.

                  They can also use some tools to remove the window in mostly one piece after cracking it, rather than smashing it and sending glass flying.

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                    Tempered glass is still sharp but it breaks into tiny pieces so it can’t cut deeply.