• Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    We should all be screaming at the top of our lungs for Biden to drop out now. Fast. Throw in Newsom or Whitmer. I’ll vote for either, doesn’t matter.

    This is a no brainer, and no loss. Either they do it which would be great, or we’re stuck with biden anyway, who now looks to be much worse off against trump.

    Everyone should be telling biden to drop out. Everyone everyone everyone. And loudly.

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      5 months ago

      It doesn’t matter who you or I will vote for. People that understand the danger of Trump would vote for a ham sandwich. What matters is who swing voters and never-Trumpers will vote for.

      Most of them would never vote for anyone from California because that state is synonymous with the worst problems of the left. They would also never vote for Whitmer because she is a self described progressive (and let’s be honest, being a woman doesn’t help with more traditionally minded centrists).

      Jared Polis would be ideal, although I would bet unfortunately being gay and Jewish would hamper him. His type of politics is exactly what we need to appeal to those toying with the idea of Trump.

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        I dont think anybody actually likes Newsom, hes a rich bastard who basically everyone dislikes. He aint got the respect Brown has due to just being a decent bureaucrat he doesnt have the goodwill of Schwarzenegger due to atleast trying his best. Hes just a dime a dozen slimeball politician nobody actively likes.

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        5 months ago

        Chase Oliver for President 2024!

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          A guy who has never held office anywhere, isn’t a Democrat, and believes the free market will fix climate change should be the Dem candidate? He’s not a serious option.

          I will admit I love his “Ellis Island” style immigration, but that would be immediately disqualifying for exactly the kind of centrist and never-Trumper people we need to win over.

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      I’ve dropped emails to Schumer, Jeffries, and my local senator and congressmen to tell them that Biden should drop the fuck out. Those that are going to vote blue are going to vote blue regardless. No one who was voting against Trump is suddenly going to switch it up.

      If Harris. Comes the pick, that’s the only wild card I see. She will alienate a lot of folks because she isn’t as progressive as media is making her out to be. And let’s face it…racism and sexism.

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        If Harris. Comes the pick, that’s the only wild card I see. She will alienate a lot of folks because she isn’t as progressive as media is making her out to be.

        I don’t think I can comfortably vote for someone who made their career as a prosecutor, she may as well have been a cop. I didn’t like her as VP either for the same reasons.

        Didn’t she make a name for herself as a DA aggressively procecuting for MJ? People who statistically looked a lot more like her than me? So we get slow roll fascism instead of a sprint?

        (heads to wikipedia)

        She prosecuted more than her predecessor, and her replacement issued blanket pardons back to 1975. So that was an option she had but chose not to take, as I see it.

        Under Harris, the D.A.'s office obtained more than 1,900 convictions for marijuana offenses, including persons simultaneously convicted of marijuana offenses and more serious crimes.[76] The rate at which Harris’s office prosecuted marijuana crimes was higher than the rate under Hallinan, but the number of defendants sentenced to state prison for such offenses was substantially lower.[76] Prosecutions for low-level marijuana offenses were rare under Harris, and her office had a policy of not pursuing jail time for marijuana possession offenses.[76] Harris’s successor as D.A., George Gascón, expunged all San Francisco marijuana offenses going back to 1975.[76]

        I’m not a single-issue voter on MJ, but I think it’s a decent indicator of where her head was at.

        Sure, if they put Harris up will I vote for her? Yeah. Then in 2028 they’ll tell me I have to vote for facist-lite again because Democracy is stil under threat even though Trump’s heart explodes from all those cheeseburgers in 2027, so she’ll get a second term. No real chance of real progressive policies or whitehouse-driven police reform until 2032.

        I’ve never seen Biden look as bad as he did in the first debate, so I’d like to see how he is in the second debate before I kick him to the curb. Then maybe we get someone who isn’t so cozy with police in for 2028 instead of Kamala’s second term.

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      Honestly, maybe I am a bit detached with my European perspective but doesn’t the president come with a lot more? An entire cabinet of ministers, the parliament etc. So even if the president is not your type of person, maybe it doesn’t matter much?

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        This is true, but the president (or presidental candidate) is also the face of their backing party, and that matters a lot. We’ve seen other people try it, but Trump is the only one who can really whip up the MAGA frenzy, which is why conservatives have painted themselves into a corner with him. Likewise, Biden represents what democrats find frustrating about the party: out of touch geriatrics who promise nothing but more of the same.

        So yeah, while the president isn’t doing most of the work directly, they set the tone, and they have a lot of influence over (or direct power to appoint) people who run major things.

      • nickwitha_k (he/him)@lemmy.sdf.org
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        You are exactly correct. A lot of Americans think of the President as the sole arbiter of government authority, despite the fact that they are just the head of one of three branches of government. As head of the Executive, they have a ton of agencies and advisors who report to them.

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      5 months ago

      Genuine question from a non American, what happens if Biden wins presidency but then dies in the first year in office?

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        Kamala Harris, the Vice President becomes President for the remainder of the term. If the President and Vice president die at the same time, the speaker of the house becomes president. There’s a very long list of successors beyond that as well.