The share of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents who believe that President Joe Biden’s 2020 election win was not legitimate has ticked back up, according to a new CNN poll fielded throughout July. All told, 69% of Republicans and Republican-leaners say Biden’s win was not legitimate, up from 63% earlier this year and through last fall, even as there is no evidence of election fraud that would have altered the outcome of the contest.

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    Lol, it’s cute you think queer rights is just a simple disagreement.

    What rights specifically are you talking about?

    I’m sure you agree with every single conservative plank when you vote.

    Nope, actually, I disagree on a lot of conservative views.

    Not sure what your “gotcha” is here. I had family who voted for him.

    You said they voted against lgbt policies and that’s why they’re on your shit list, but there’s not one lgbt policy you can name they voted against

    If someone votes for politicians with anti-queer policies then they need to deal with the consequences just like the rest of us do.

    So you’re for repercussions against people that don’t vote in line with you?

    I don’t have to associate with anyone and there isn’t a rational argument against queer human rights.

    Of course, you have freedom of association listed out in our constitutional rights. What human rights do I, an asian male, have that queers don’t? My girlfriend is queer, so I really want to know what human rights she does not have so I can fight for her.

    (or whoever the GOP nom will be)

    Oh, so an individual candidate’s views doesn’t matter, purely the party? Do you know anyone who voted for Obama in 08? They were voting for a man that was against gay marriage, you better cut them off. As I mentioned before, and you ignored, Trump is the first president to come into office being pro-gay marriage.

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      Cool. So your gf is queer. She can inform you.

      Lastly, Trump isn’t pro-gay marriage. He’s just pro whatever gets him attention. Surrounding himself with a bunch of homophobes and transphobes doesn’t make him pro-gay.

      2016 GOP platform calls for a ban on same sex marriage. That’s anti-gay. Voting for any Republican is anti-gay. Not sure how you can’t understand that. Maybe, again, ask your “queer” gf.

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        Cool. So your gf is queer. She can inform you.

        I’m just asking you to back up your comments, it seems like you are incapable of it.

        Lastly, Trump isn’t pro-gay marriage

        He ran on a platform that included being pro-gay marriage. If you want to stick to your single issue voting record, you should’ve voted for trump back in 2016. See how quickly your ‘logic’ falls apart, when you actually learn about positions of candidates? Once again, if you know anyone that voted for obama in 08, you should cut them out of your life.

        That’s anti-gay.

        Sure, I don’t support their platform. I can support candidates, though.

        Voting for any Republican is anti-gay.

        Nope, plenty of republicans are pro-gay. I just showed you, Obama was anti-gay marriage, and Trump was pro gay marriage.

        Not sure how you can’t understand that.

        I keep showing you how you’re wrong, but you keep pearl clutching. You don’t want to have an informed vote, you want to yell at one side, which is fine, but stop trying to act like you’re so holy when you can’t even tell me what rights you’re trying to preserve.

        You refuse to answer the most basic question of your stance: What right do I, an asian man, have that my queer girlfriend (or if you don’t want to compare me to her, you can use yourself as you’ve identified as queer) has.

        As you requested, I have asked my queer GF, and she says we have the same rights. So I’m curious about the gap of understanding between you and her. Please clarify, because as a result of your wishy washy statements, your changing views and your persistence of saying that you don’t have the same rights (or the rights are under threat), despite providing no back up to that statement, is extremely confusing.

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          For one you don’t have to look over your shoulder when holding your partner’s hand in public. You don’t have politicians calling you a pedo. You could have married her at any point. You don’t have to worry about losing your job or housing for being queer depending on where you live. You don’t have to worry about your kids being taken away from you because you’re gay and your state doesn’t think your kids are safe.

          I’m really surprised at how ignorant your gf is about que er issues. Are you sure she’s queer or did she just kiss a girl once.

          Tru.p state department appealed federal ruling recognizing the citizenship of a girl born to a gay couple.

          Trump banned trans folks from serving in the army.

          Trump remixes anti-discrimination protections from HHS.

          Trump admin adopted regulation that gender is biological sex, it isn’t.

          Trump blamed the Orlando Pulse shooting on radical Islam when it was a home grown mass murderer.

          Trump SCOTUS noms are hostile to gay equality and advocate ridiculous religious liberty arguments.

          Trump’s VP supported conversation therapy, which is torture.

          Trump rescinded protections for gay workers, so they could be fired just for being gay.

          Trump admin argued Civil Rights Act doesn’t protect queer people.

          Trump fired the WH Office of National AIDS Policy. He also ignored the impact HIV/AIDS had on the LGBTQ community on World AIDS Day.

          As for Obama, I’m happy Biden pushed him to support gay marriage. I cried when I saw that announcement. I can’t fault people for voting for a candidate who didn’t support SSM when no-one supported SSM.

          As for your gf. She’s either lying or just pretending to be queer for the clout.

          Edit: I can see from your post history you lack critical analysis of history and historical trends. You should stick to numbers.