I’ll engage with you in case you are acting in good faith.
“Helps” here is an interesting take, but not an uncommon one. There have been and continue to be a lot of people that when they see someone who has adhd or autism or some other neurodivergence think “let’s help them act ‘normal’”
If you are a neurotypical person you might even genuinely be thinking this is a good thing and in some ways it can be. Providing accommodations and life skills that are compatible with neurodivergence can make a world of difference.
The problem is that there is a long history of “help” being neither accommodations nor life skills, but discipline and shame. Here’s a thought experiment if you are neurotypical that might help.
Imagine that the world was majority autistic, since autistic individuals are the majority they consider their way of thinking to be neurotypical and you are neurodivergent. You want to do things that make sense to your brain, you’d like to make small talk and you find it very hard to stay focused during your school days 4-hour special interest hyper focus time.
Society “helps” you by telling you you are lazy and unfocused and all the normal people are able to spend 4 hours in a row completely consumed by their special interest but you keep wanting to talk or have variety and it’s very disruptive. They teach you “how to hyper focus” but nothing they say works for you, your brain isn’t wired to do this. They scold you when you don’t. They finally decide the best path would be to label you divergent and give you powerful stimulants so that you can remain hyper focused like a normal person. They “help” you.
And then one day you learn about how your brain is simply different, that you shouldn’t have felt bad all those years for being unable to do something your brain just isn’t wired to do. You realize that you don’t even really know the person that you are because your whole life you’ve been faking it, running scripts that they taught you so people won’t be upset at you, and taking chemicals to force your brain into an unnatural configuration.
Then someone comments on your post “So what you are saying is a good upbringing helps.” How would you feel?
If I’m going to be an optimist, the post says “People didn’t previously get diagnosed because a bad upbringing is just abuse and not diagnosis” and this person is saying “with a good upbringing, you get help with diagnosis instead of abuse.” No joke involved. just “The secret to not having miserable kids is not abusing them.”
Obviously the negative take would be “Abusing your child until they behave ‘normal’ is a good upbringing because it ‘helps’ them blend in”
Which one was it? 🤷 Poe’s law kinda means it’s impossible to know if this is sarcasm or not. I’m not about to go digging through someone’s post history to find out their attitude on the topic.
Reported for what? 😂 I swear too much time on this community and you’d think people with ADHD are marginalized as much as trans people. Get over yourselves
This is not a zero sum game. Your comment comes off as pretty hateful but on the off chance it’s not intended as a troll, support disadvantaged people and be empathetic. There’s a lot of community overlap.
Pretty sure they said having a good upbringing (supportive/attentive parents) helps negate the effects of undiagnosed ADHD, not sure how tf you got defending child abuse.
The way it’s worded reads like they’re implying doing the things in the tweet to make kids “normal” is good parenting. It’s not uncommon for dipshits to say that, and the ban makes me think they doubled down on it.
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I’ll engage with you in case you are acting in good faith.
“Helps” here is an interesting take, but not an uncommon one. There have been and continue to be a lot of people that when they see someone who has adhd or autism or some other neurodivergence think “let’s help them act ‘normal’”
If you are a neurotypical person you might even genuinely be thinking this is a good thing and in some ways it can be. Providing accommodations and life skills that are compatible with neurodivergence can make a world of difference.
The problem is that there is a long history of “help” being neither accommodations nor life skills, but discipline and shame. Here’s a thought experiment if you are neurotypical that might help.
Imagine that the world was majority autistic, since autistic individuals are the majority they consider their way of thinking to be neurotypical and you are neurodivergent. You want to do things that make sense to your brain, you’d like to make small talk and you find it very hard to stay focused during your school days 4-hour special interest hyper focus time.
Society “helps” you by telling you you are lazy and unfocused and all the normal people are able to spend 4 hours in a row completely consumed by their special interest but you keep wanting to talk or have variety and it’s very disruptive. They teach you “how to hyper focus” but nothing they say works for you, your brain isn’t wired to do this. They scold you when you don’t. They finally decide the best path would be to label you divergent and give you powerful stimulants so that you can remain hyper focused like a normal person. They “help” you.
And then one day you learn about how your brain is simply different, that you shouldn’t have felt bad all those years for being unable to do something your brain just isn’t wired to do. You realize that you don’t even really know the person that you are because your whole life you’ve been faking it, running scripts that they taught you so people won’t be upset at you, and taking chemicals to force your brain into an unnatural configuration.
Then someone comments on your post “So what you are saying is a good upbringing helps.” How would you feel?
Not OP but your example was a super interesting explanation.
“Helps.”
Good parents help
Your comment has been reported and I admit, I am trying to understand what joke you’re trying to make here. Can you clarify for me?
If I’m going to be an optimist, the post says “People didn’t previously get diagnosed because a bad upbringing is just abuse and not diagnosis” and this person is saying “with a good upbringing, you get help with diagnosis instead of abuse.” No joke involved. just “The secret to not having miserable kids is not abusing them.”
Obviously the negative take would be “Abusing your child until they behave ‘normal’ is a good upbringing because it ‘helps’ them blend in”
Which one was it? 🤷 Poe’s law kinda means it’s impossible to know if this is sarcasm or not. I’m not about to go digging through someone’s post history to find out their attitude on the topic.
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Reported for what? 😂 I swear too much time on this community and you’d think people with ADHD are marginalized as much as trans people. Get over yourselves
This is not a zero sum game. Your comment comes off as pretty hateful but on the off chance it’s not intended as a troll, support disadvantaged people and be empathetic. There’s a lot of community overlap.
Probably for defending child abuse
Pretty sure they said having a good upbringing (supportive/attentive parents) helps negate the effects of undiagnosed ADHD, not sure how tf you got defending child abuse.
The way it’s worded reads like they’re implying doing the things in the tweet to make kids “normal” is good parenting. It’s not uncommon for dipshits to say that, and the ban makes me think they doubled down on it.
I think that comment has two readings:
I can see why the second might get reported.