European researchers said Thursday that the the start of June saw global surface air temperatures rise 1.5 degrees Celsius above pre-industrial levels for the first time. That is the limit governments said they would try to limit global warming to at a 2015 summit in Paris.

    • Ni@kbin.socialOP
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      1 year ago

      Absolutely, it’s a difficult one as I/we have little to no access to the main carbon contributors so I try to do the little I can instead! And vote!

      • RyanHakurei@kbin.social
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        1 year ago

        I would recommend not reducing your quality of life to offset the output of the very people telling you to stop enjoying life. You taking a flight on a mass transit jet pollutes almost nothing in comparison to these jackasses flying around on private jets to virtue signal about the climate. When they at the very least decide to fly business class instead of taking their own jets I will take them at least somewhat seriously, but that’d mean they have the possibility of interacting with us normal folk so that’ll never happen.

          • RyanHakurei@kbin.social
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            1 year ago

            I was talking more about flying which is associated with vacations and travel which 100% does affect quality of life.

            • HubertManne@kbin.social
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              6
              ·
              1 year ago

              I don’t understand the “need” for extensive travel with vacations. Do people travel to where you live to take a vacation. They do where I live. Why should I go out of my way to travel to some other place when there is beauty all around me right here.

              • RyanHakurei@kbin.social
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                2
                ·
                edit-2
                1 year ago

                I am betting that you’ll be the first to switch to bug burgers and give up your home for a pod. So here’s the thing, when you live in a location for tourism (as I do, by the way) it gets kinda boring due to this little fact that you live there. The point of traveling/vacations is to see something new, to have diverse experiences, you can’t really have that in your home turf so to speak. Sure, you can go out and do things for fun on days off or whatever, but to actually vacation you’re going to want to go out of your home turf. Hitting the same hiking trail for the 1000th time doesn’t really hit the same as going somewhere you’ve never been before, or somewhere you’ve not visited much.

            • Ni@kbin.socialOP
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              4
              ·
              1 year ago

              I’ve taken to more national holidays over flying in recent years. I quite enjoy it but I do recognise what you are saying with the reduction in flying having an impact on holidaying in general. I would strongly encourage finding places to see within your country as there are often brilliant places to see and stay and it helps the local economy.

            • ampersandrew@kbin.social
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              4
              ·
              1 year ago

              In those cases, if it’s an option, there are also trains to consider. Depending on the length of the trip, that can even be a major improvement to quality of life.

              • Ni@kbin.socialOP
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                3
                ·
                1 year ago

                I know that trains aren’t always an option, especially in America. But if you can some train journeys can be really beautiful, especially across Europe and it’s a much slower way of seeing places.

                • RyanHakurei@kbin.social
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  2
                  ·
                  1 year ago

                  Trains also become a non-starter if there’s a significant body of water such as an ocean between you and your desired travel destination.

              • RyanHakurei@kbin.social
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                2
                ·
                edit-2
                1 year ago

                Show me a single train that goes across oceans. Also don’t mention ships lol because I will tear you up on that point as ships burn literally the worst fuel imaginable for the environment.

      • HubertManne@kbin.social
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        1 year ago

        Yeah its like just because corpos fly private jets I still walk first, then bike, then take public transit, and only drive if I have to. I try not to travel but if I do its train first, plane second.

          • LostCause@kbin.social
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            1 year ago

            So if your travel is a 1 and the jet is a 10, you have 11 damage to nature: If you don‘t travel and have 0 and the jet still has 10 then it‘s 10. That is less. Fair? No, far from it, nothing in this fucked up world is, but saying that it doesn‘t matter at all and everything is fine as long as the billionaires are doing worse is a cope.

            • RyanHakurei@kbin.social
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              2
              ·
              edit-2
              1 year ago

              So the solution is to remove the 10, but no one ever advocates for that oddly enough. It’s funny seeing people in this specific debate simp for billionaires and do exactly as they want, for example you with this very comment.