• OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    14
    arrow-down
    9
    ·
    edit-2
    5 months ago

    Neither of those countries returned to a feudal system. Where are the nobles, with entrenched legal privileges, with titles passed down on a hereditary basis, commanding their own armies? What a ridiculous claim.

    • JohnDClay
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      9
      arrow-down
      6
      ·
      5 months ago

      That’s why I said /oligarchy. Both became oligarchys.

    • JohnDClay
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      arrow-down
      10
      ·
      5 months ago

      Feudalism specifically would be more north Korea.

      • OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        8
        arrow-down
        6
        ·
        5 months ago

        Does North Korea have the noble class I described? Do you have any evidence that such a class exists?

        • JohnDClay
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          8
          arrow-down
          6
          ·
          5 months ago

          Yeah, it has a king and royal family.

          • OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            7
            arrow-down
            5
            ·
            5 months ago

            That’s both not true and also not what I asked. The UK has a king and noble family, does that make it a feudal system?

            • JohnDClay
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              6
              arrow-down
              7
              ·
              5 months ago

              Mostly not because they don’t have the political power.

              • OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                7
                arrow-down
                3
                ·
                5 months ago

                There are other monarchies in the world today that do hold political power. That doesn’t mean that they’re governing over a feudal system. The noble system I described is one of the defining characteristics of feudalism.

                • JohnDClay
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  3
                  arrow-down
                  5
                  ·
                  5 months ago

                  Okay, in the oversimplified graphic of the meme, I was including absolute monarchy under feudalism, since I thought it was closer to that than capitalism.

                  • OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    7
                    arrow-down
                    3
                    ·
                    5 months ago

                    Right, because you’re doing zero analysis of the economic or political structures involved and playing fast and loose with terminology.