• M500@lemmy.ml
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    6 months ago

    I’m sure there is a bumper stick that’s says “I got this before musk was crazy”

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      6 months ago

      Those bumper stickers are bullshit. Musk was a nut job who profited from apartheid and then bought his way into the public mind as some kind of low rent Tony Stark from the get. San Francisco 2012 people thought I was nuts for claiming he was a huge charlatan and now those same people rock those bumper stickers.

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        6 months ago

        Despite Musk, Teslas did have some positive effect as they helped push electric car adoption. The big automakers were not interested in taking risks, and nobody was eager to build out large charger networks.

        I certainly don’t credit Musk himself for it, but no one should feel ashamed of having bought one of those cars back then. Today there are other good options for electric vehicles from companies run by slightly less bad people, but let’s not kid ourselves. Everything we buy comes from some company that is enriching monsters…it’s just that some of them are more monstrous than others.

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          6 months ago

          True enough.

          Just because shitheads run companies didn’t mean you can’t enjoy & appreciate the actual work, design, creation of brilliant, hard working people that made the actual product.

          Musk never made anything. Nothing new, anyway. He made a hostile collar workplace noose and roped a group of companies into our modern, uncontested (except by unions) version of slavery.

          The people at Tesla are groundbreakering pioneers of the future of transportation. Unfortunately, they’re not geniuses about how to properly deal with a strangling grifter owner.

          That kind of terrible management, terrible treatment of people, workers is rampant across (most?) all companies. Musk just screwed the best of the brightest lights on the road to the future. Fucked everybody harder than the other CEOs cause, well, as others mention, he was born to it (Emerald apartheid slave driver heritage).

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            6 months ago

            What’s sick is that what he did at Twitter was something many in the C-suite were in some cases privately cheering, and, in places where they were permitted, wanted to openly emulate. Sure, the excuse was that (some) companies overstaffed in the early covid days, but at X, they cut things to the bone and beyond when Musk took over, and it mostly seemed to be ideologically driven (“own the libs” but also, and this is the part others want to do as well, and in some cases, did: “crush those uppity tech workers”). This, combined with AI, was providing a beacon of hope to the corporate overlords eager to make even more undeserved money.

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        6 months ago

        Ok so people didn’t know, that doesn’t make them bad people and it doesn’t make you as smart as you think you are.

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          If people ignore how shitty someone is, they are, in fact, bad people if they support their business.

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            I’m sorry but I have no idea who is the CEO, of say, Nissan or whatever, and I’m sure 99% of buyers don’t research that.

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      6 months ago

      Yes, that’s called a Confederate flag. If you buy one after 2019, then it’s a Nazi flag.